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Old 13th March 2012, 18:58   #1771
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The gearshift is getting worse. Sometimes, no matter how much I try, reverse cannot be engaged. This is happening even with warm engine.

The continentals which I had put in at 20K are at end of life, will need to get a set of 4 new tires, with the least worn out tire doing spare duty.
What could be the reason for the hard gearshift?

And, will you stick to Continentals?
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Other than that, the power windows are problematic. If its below 5 degrees, the window(Drivers side window) has to be pulled up by hand. It won't come up on its own.

The gearshift is getting worse. Sometimes, no matter how much I try, reverse cannot be engaged. This is happening even with warm engine.
For the windows problem you will have to change something called as "Rack" on which the glass slides up and down.

For gearshifts check lever bolts, if something is getting stuck, otherwise the gearbox will have tobe opened up happened with me.
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What could be the reason for the hard gearshift?

And, will you stick to Continentals?
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For the windows problem you will have to change something called as "Rack" on which the glass slides up and down.

For gearshifts check lever bolts, if something is getting stuck, otherwise the gearbox will have tobe opened up happened with me.
Hard Gearshift will be checked next time I take to the service center. The front hubs seem to be gone. Vehicle is not shifting properly to 4wd and front hubs make noise. Even on braking.

As for the tires, I actually got 4 tires replaced recently. And they are continentals
Brand new and shiny
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And best part. The sliding on ice is much reduced now. That said, I need snow chains. 4x4 can only go so much
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So what does your per km cost stand at now for maintenance and overall?
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So what does your per km cost stand at now for maintenance and overall?
78500kms
Repair(service + running repair cost) = 0.98/km
Fuel cost 3.31/km
Average FE(life of vehicle) - 10.70
Accessories(seat covers reverse camera etc.,) : 0.26/km
Non Tata (Tires, alignment done outside, wheel balancing done outside) : 0.79/km

So overall cost/km including fuel = 5.34
Excluding fuel(including accessories and tires) = 2.03/km
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I would recommend you check with TASS for repair option for front hubs. The cost of replacement is around Rs. 15k per hub. I had the similar problem, i.e., it would make noise on 4wd. TASS quoted 15k. However, with kind help from someone at Pune (whom I came to know through this forum, but cannot publish his name without permission) and lot of follow up with TASS, finally they repaired it for Rs. 300.
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As for the tires, I actually got 4 tires replaced recently. And they are continentals
Brand new and shiny
Could you please let me know the cost you paid for these new crosscontact tyres?
If you are not comfortable sharing with the information, could you atleast share price quoted by dealer MRP. (assuming you got some discounts)
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Could you please let me know the cost you paid for these new crosscontact tyres?
If you are not comfortable sharing with the information, could you atleast share price quoted by dealer MRP. (assuming you got some discounts)
I paid 7500/tire - discount for old tires (some 2000rs total)
When the ISI marked version comes, shortage should go away, and you should get it for 7000/tire.

I am not sure whether Continental plans to bring this A/T tire to India or not. They are concentrating more on highway tires, since thats where the market is.
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A funny km number to give an update, right?
But then the white elephant spent 3 weeks at the service center, a major part of it to get the 4x4 transfer case parts.
Apart from that she had developed the the habit of marking territory, so rear diff oil as well as power steering oil had to be changed. Gearbox was also giving trouble, so clutch plates and pressure plates were changed, along with a few gearbox parts.
All in all, 50,000 INR worth of parts change.
Yes you read it right.

MY share.. 19960.

The ownership cost is creeping up at a brisk pace now. Hopefully she will last another year without making any more such dents in the pocket.

Anyways, here is the list of parts changed.
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50k . 19k you paid is for clutch/pressure plates and consumables. So EW saved a good 30k. At least now your 4x4 system is in top shape!

Where are you heading ?
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That's a hefty bill tsk.
By any chance did you maintain any excel sheet with the costs incurred towards servicing excluding the fuel costs.
Is it normal for the transfer case parts to fail at 78k kms or is it due to any hard core /extensive off -roading that you have done ?

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50k . 19k you paid is for clutch/pressure plates and consumables. So EW saved a good 30k. At least now your 4x4 system is in top shape!

Where are you heading ?
Not heading anywhere, its just that daily driving was getting troublesome due to gearshift. On a recent trip 4x4 failed to engage.

The 19K is for one bearings, consumables, some 4x4 parts(gaskets etc.,),. synchros, clutch plate, pressure plate.


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That's a hefty bill tsk.
By any chance did you maintain any excel sheet with the costs incurred towards servicing excluding the fuel costs.
Is it normal for the transfer case parts to fail at 78k kms or is it due to any hard core /extensive off -roading that you have done ?
I do maintain a sheet.
I have spent 97000rs on the car till now (77800kms)
This is excluding - Tires, Fuel, Accessories, and just includes the amount spent at workshops.

The last few notable expenses
69000kms - 16000 for front suspension and steering work, and some rear diff work
60000 - Rear suspension work

As for off roading, I have never done hard core offroading in the safari. even when I went on a NIOC otr, I gave most obstacles the miss.
Even on ladakh trips, there was no place where I had to do hard core offroading. I think its just general safari quality. Something or the other fails. In my case it was the 4x4.

As for clutch, well it could have lasted 10k kms more, but I decided to go for a new one so that daily driving would get better.

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60k for for "rear" suspension, this is too high for just the rear suspension!
what all was replaced?

Btw have not seen any new travelogue from you offlate? or have i missed it?

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60000 - Rear suspension work

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60k for for "rear" suspension, this is too high for just the rear suspension!
what all was replaced?

Btw have not seen any new travelogue from you offlate? or have i missed it?
LOL Lohit, I meant "60000kms"
I have not written any logs for quite some time. Will post a few pics in the coming days.
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ahhh my bad, btw how much total suspension overhaul cost?


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LOL Lohit, I meant "60000kms"
I have not written any logs for quite some time. Will post a few pics in the coming days.
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