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Old 17th April 2009, 17:05   #1021
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I have had the tacho needle/rpm surging thing from the start on my truck. It happens on cold starts, as well as on a warmed up engine when the truck is stationary, say at a red light. It usually flicks between 800-950 rpm. Haven't seen it go above 1000rpm ever. The engine note changes a little during the flickering on a cold start (goes Grrr Grrr), haven't noticed any change in engine note when it flickers on a warm engine.

I don't think this is anything to be worried about too much. I've seen this surging on some of my petrol cars as well, like my ikon and fiesta. My cousin's Linea also has the same mild flickering. In fact, my Ikon's engine surges to 2000 rpm on a cold start before settling down to its idle speed gradually.
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I have had the tacho needle/rpm surging thing from the start on my truck. It happens on cold starts, as well as on a warmed up engine when the truck is stationary, say at a red light. It usually flicks between 800-950 rpm. Haven't seen it go above 1000rpm ever. The engine note changes a little during the flickering on a cold start (goes Grrr Grrr), haven't noticed any change in engine note when it flickers on a warm engine.

I don't think this is anything to be worried about too much. I've seen this surging on some of my petrol cars as well, like my ikon and fiesta. My cousin's Linea also has the same mild flickering. In fact, my Ikon's engine surges to 2000 rpm on a cold start before settling down to its idle speed gradually.

Does the RPM remain at 2000 rpm or does it flicker between idle & 2000

If it stays constant then its the engine's bid towards a quicker warm up! to compensate for the lack of a choke else something must be wrong! get it checked!!
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I don't think this is anything to be worried about too much. I've seen this surging on some of my petrol cars as well, like my ikon and fiesta. My cousin's Linea also has the same mild flickering. In fact, my Ikon's engine surges to 2000 rpm on a cold start before settling down to its idle speed gradually.
MPFI petrol engines have this as their property, no issues at all. In fact, it is suggested to allow 10-15 secs after all circuits are on and before turning the ignition on, as the fuel gets evenly injected.
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Old 27th April 2009, 02:52   #1024
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She has seen 15500kms now and this saturday will be time for the second free service. All in all this will be the third service(7500kms service being paid and voluntary)

Not much to update, except that on a long trip the left wheelcap fell off. Luckily I stopped and recovered it.

Thankfully Hal and Burt never owned Tata otherwise the famous song would have been
"Parts keep falling on my head"
for example. on saturday the plastic cover which covers the map lights fell on my head.
At first I thought the sky is falling, then I realized it was the light cover
Why it fell?
The locking clips have broken on their own(I have no idea how)
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Old 27th April 2009, 13:39   #1025
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i dunno why these things keep happening with you Tanveer.

Maybe somebody is messing up with your wheel covers and claddings.

LOL
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Old 27th April 2009, 14:04   #1026
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I am sure nobody messed with the interior light. After all the keys are always with me. Is it possible that due to the heat the plastic clip became brittle?
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Old 27th April 2009, 16:32   #1027
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It sure does light up better without the plastic cover
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Old 27th April 2009, 16:33   #1028
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you betcha! It sure does. But without it the glare from map light is too much. So at night it makes things worse. you do not want the map light to be so bright so when your co passenger switches it on, you go blind!
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Default 16000kms.. the circus continues

To cut a long story short. I got the second free service done from autolinks
It cost me 2426 rs.
It would have been 300rs cheaper if I hadn't told them that the rear slides towards the left, and the car tries to topple if you hit the brakes.
To fix that they put LPSV on the max setting and cleaned brake pads. The latter costs 225+tax.
It helped, but a little bit.
she still goes sideways everytime you hit the brakes. But its mangeable now, and I am learning how to adjust, and how to give just the right opposite lock, and how to do threshold braking.
See, a safari makes you a better driver.


But thats not the only problem. We discovered that the innermost tread on the front wheels has vanished.
Alignment issues. A tie rod was changed approx 2500kms back, and the warranty replacement bill given to me has no mention of alignment.
I wonder whether TML pays for tires lost this way. Have sent a mail to tata motors, lets see what they do.
Anyways, autolinks recommended me to get alignment done from outside, since they have proper equipment for small cars only.

The alignment chaps(tyre shoppe) were rubbing their hands in glee. Because it would cost 300rs(alignment)+400rs for the camber, which was at ... hold your breath... -1.26 on the LHS. Toe was out for both the tires, well into negative instead of the 0.09-0.22 recommended

After alignment they also changed the tire sides, 50rs each per tire for removing tire from rim and refitting it.

All in all, at 16000kms, I spent 2426+800 for the service.

Total maintenance expense for the car(including 2 tires[7500]) stands at Rs 15351.
The total breakup of running cost

Fuel Total 47,684.76 Fuel liters 1,437.64
Repair Total 15,351.00 Incr Kms 15,901.00
Accessories total 14,250.00 FE 11.06

Grand Total 77,285.76 Cost/km 4.86
Repair/km 0.97
Fuel/km 3.00
Accessories/km 0.90
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Did you get the RPM surge issue checked ? Or is it on the back burner as long as it causes no visible/ known harm ?
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It cannot be checked now. Ambient temp even in morning is above thirty.
Travelling to Manali shortly, will see it there, but its okay. I have decided to stop worrying, and as long as it moves its fine. Thats all I will expect
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Maybe you should arrange for an alternate mode of transport back from Manali. Just in case. lol. You never know when the next circus performance may be.
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I don't think that will be necessary. The radiator does not lose water now, and as for the brakes, i won't worry too much, after all you use engine braking in the hills
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See how adaptable humans are? We will adapt and adopt.
Waiting for another travelouge - hoping and wishing it is without heartache 8-)
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It cannot be checked now. Ambient temp even in morning is above thirty.
Travelling to Manali shortly, will see it there, but its okay. I have decided to stop worrying, and as long as it moves its fine. Thats all I will expect
Your expectations from your safari seem to have really gone down. Understandable after what it has made you go through but just hope for the best. We all hope that your troubles are well and truely over and that you savour your time tripping. Cheers.
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