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Old 9th September 2009, 14:04   #106
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Just spoke to Sharmaji (Fiat Workshop Manager at Elegant and the guy who many of us trust for our Fiats in Delhi). He said replacement is only for those who are having serious gearshift issues like Bubby.

I have been monitoring this for a while. My car seems OK, so i will skip it.

My basic warranty expires in a couple of weeks. I hope the extended warranty has the same terms and conditions.

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Just spoke to Sharmaji (Fiat Workshop Manager at Elegant and the guy who many of us trust for our Fiats in Delhi). He said replacement is only for those who are having serious gearshift issues like Bubby.

I have been monitoring this for a while. My car seems OK, so i will skip it.

My basic warranty expires in a couple of weeks. I hope the extended warranty has the same terms and conditions.
My 18 month warranty is expiring,my gear shift is not very smooth should get it checked
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Old 30th September 2009, 18:40   #108
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Forza is back in Bangalore. The modified clutch bracket has done wonders to the gear shifting and clutch feedback, and the AC is merrily humming away.

Architect: Get the bracket changed. You'll love it!

Pleasant surprise: since the compressor gets cut off as it should these days, I got 17 kmpl on the highway (used to get between 13 and 15 normally), and 16 in the city.

But all's not idyllic in Forzaville. The car takes a couple of more turns of the self to start when the engine's cold. I wonder if this is because the heater coil's not doing its job. What do you folks think?

I'm going to be posting some photographs really soon - sorry for the delay.
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hey good to know that ur cars back to normal dude...
check the battery
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Ice, I'm really impressed with your love for Fiat. If I were in your shoes, I would have sold the car by now.

Hope, at least from now, she treats you well without any further niggles.

From your posts, I could see that you drive fast. Pls. drive safely, I have had some bad experiences just because I drive fast.

Keep your spirits up!

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@Ice - I have been reading your posts and have the same issues with my Palio AC. I had reported this on another forum and the suggestion was to use the temp setting to be less than max, between red start and deep blue. I did it again this time, but still the problem persists.

Mine is a Palio 1.6 Stile. I did a run from Pune to Mumbai on the expressway in the hot afternoon, yesterday, and it was miserable. No AC cooling at all, right from the start. It is not that there was some cooling initially and then it stopped. In Mumbai, in slightly slower traffic, the chilling returned.
What could be it? I will be taking the car for a checkup on Monday. Let's see what they say ? In the meanwhile, any pointers will be much appreciated.
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Ice, I'm really impressed with your love for Fiat. If I were in your shoes, I would have sold the car by now.

Hope, at least from now, she treats you well without any further niggles.

From your posts, I could see that you drive fast. Pls. drive safely, I have had some bad experiences just because I drive fast.

Keep your spirits up!
CliffHanger,

Thank you for your concern. I normally have a speed limiter sitting beside me - my wife!

As for Fiat, any Fiat owner will tell you they love their car. They hate Fiat, they hate the service guys, but they love their car. And they (like me) queue up outside the Fiat showroom for every new launch, and replace a Fiat with a Fiat. Its a bit masochistic, let me tell you. Fiat buyers also probably enjoy a good spanking occasionally!

Thumb rule when buying a Fiat: have an alternate mode of transport ready while you wait for the parts.

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hey good to know that ur cars back to normal dude...
check the battery
Got the battery checked - all normal. Funny - the car starts without a hitch now. I do only one thing differently - I wait for a second after the yellow coil light goes off.

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@Ice - I have been reading your posts and have the same issues with my Palio AC. I had reported this on another forum and the suggestion was to use the temp setting to be less than max, between red start and deep blue. I did it again this time, but still the problem persists.

Mine is a Palio 1.6 Stile. I did a run from Pune to Mumbai on the expressway in the hot afternoon, yesterday, and it was miserable. No AC cooling at all, right from the start. It is not that there was some cooling initially and then it stopped. In Mumbai, in slightly slower traffic, the chilling returned.
What could be it? I will be taking the car for a checkup on Monday. Let's see what they say ? In the meanwhile, any pointers will be much appreciated.
Its either the compressor or the expansion valve. Or a combination of both. They changed both these in my car (at different times) and it didn't resolve the issue completely, so VST motors in Madras fitted a Tata-spec cut-off switch for the compressor. The AC works brilliantly now, albeit with the usual khat-khat that thermostated ACs like the Indica's and the WagonR's.

See what the service station says. Don't accept an AC recharge or some other superficial fix. Since the problem comes only on longer drives, take the Service Advisor on one. I had a hard time convincing Prerana in Bangalore that such a problem existed because they used to take the car out for short 15-20 minute drives and the problem wouldn't surface then. Keep me posted, and I'll help you in any which way I can.
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Not getting the bracket. Clutch is heavy, but no gearshift issues. Finished 30,000 km, have put up review. Nice to see your car back in action. All the best!
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so you are back with your baby treating you well?? nice :o)
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so you are back with your baby treating you well?? nice :o)
Yes, sir! She's doing fine. Got Michelins XM1 to replace the Potenzas (which were unevenly worn and made highway braking an issue)

Will put up some pics and a more detailed write-up in a bit.
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That would be nice, please post them. Btw, along with the tire change, why don't you consider alloys for your baby? That would surely increase her beauty by manifolds

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Got the battery checked - all normal. Funny - the car starts without a hitch now. I do only one thing differently - I wait for a second after the yellow coil light goes off.
Instead of waiting for only the heater coil indication to go off, please also wait for the "whirrr" of the fuel pump (which also has an indicator on the left of the instrument console) to finish before cranking. If your heater coil is in good health, it will go off much before the fuel pump will stop. In any case, the car won't start until FP has put in enough fuel, whether you crank once or twice.

I follow this system. So far, the heater coil light goes off quite quick (unlike the 7 second wait in the 1st gen Indicas) and the fuel pump lags behind. I have never had to crank twice.
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Hey Ice nice to know that your MJD is running smooth and without hiccups.

But isn't it a early to change tyres? Howe much have you done?
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That would be nice, please post them. Btw, along with the tire change, why don't you consider alloys for your baby? That would surely increase her beauty by manifolds
I'm looking for OE Palio GTX alloys. I've spoken to a couple of dealerships to see if I can get my hands on a set. I agree with you - alloys will definitely add to the looks of the car.

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Instead of waiting for only the heater coil indication to go off, please also wait for the "whirrr" of the fuel pump (which also has an indicator on the left of the instrument console) to finish before cranking. If your heater coil is in good health, it will go off much before the fuel pump will stop. In any case, the car won't start until FP has put in enough fuel, whether you crank once or twice.

I follow this system. So far, the heater coil light goes off quite quick (unlike the 7 second wait in the 1st gen Indicas) and the fuel pump lags behind. I have never had to crank twice.
Architect Sir,
As usual, you are a treasure trove of information and advice. Going forward, I will be keeping an eye on both the fuel pump indicator and the heater coil indicator before cranking the car. Also, I think the 1 - 2 second wait after the coil indicator goes off inadvertently takes care of the fuel pump startup as well!



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Hey Ice nice to know that your MJD is running smooth and without hiccups.

But isn't it a early to change tyres? Howe much have you done?
I've done ~ 27,000 kms., most of it on the highway. I got the Potenzas fitted before delivery, and the tyres have been good on long drives in terms of grip during cornering and braking. However, around 3 months ago, I observed some uneven wear on the insides of the front two tyres. I had the alignment checked at a Good Year store, to find that it was completely out of whack. Thank you, Prerana.

I then had the front tyres inverted and swapped with the rear tyres. But the wear was too extensive, and showed up during high-speed braking with an almighty shudder. So I went ahead and swapped the tyres - figured I'd have to change them anyway in the next few months. The new Michelins are a size down from the Potenzas (175s vs. 185s), but are very impressive. Ride comfort has improved exponentially.
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