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Old 24th February 2009, 16:48   #106
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Hi Guys!

Time for 3000 Kms update!

I went to Rajasthan this extended weekend to take the update as dad I think will only be back when the first service is due.

The car has done 3483 kms and thankfully runnig in is complete . Though still I feel that engine has not opened fully as yet but the power is just awsome. After the runin, I exposed it to all the inhospitable conditions I could to test its capability and it has come out with flying colors. Guys I even pushed it in 4x4 territory and it never got stuck or even showed signs of getting stuck.

The car still has the same issues that I was able to point out the first day and no other major issues (except two minor ones) have cropped up till now. I am saying this as in most of the updates posted for almost all the other vehicles I have read issues cropping up within first 5k to 10k kms. Be it small rattles to major issues like Tanveer's Safari. We have seen them all.

The issues were:

1. Driver Side door rattles in potholed roads and sounds as if its not shut properly.

2. Right side rear door puddle light not working.

3. Sometimes, a low frequency rattle comes from the engine compartment while accelerating (new).

4. Sometimes while cruising, a slight ghrine like sound comes from the DDAS unit on the dash as if the speedo works on a old machenical cable kind of setup and it has come loose (new).


Also one thing I noticed that I am not sure is an issue or not is that the Xylo beeps asa I take her above 130kmph. Its not DDAS warning(nothing on the screen), no warning/Service Light just a warning beep from the dash. Its the same beep that warns you of Seatbelt and door ajar before the DDAS does. Clueless what it means though. Went through the manual but nothing on it. Bahram Sir, any insight on this?

One sad thing among all this is that the car also has seen its first dent and a big one. Dad while reversing and talking on the phone at the same time, completely relied on the parking sensors and it failed to detect a small half broken electric pole exactly at the edge of the vehicle. I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4530.jpg
I believe the sensors should be exactly at the edge of the bumper instead of around 4 inches inside so that they can properly detect an object in the pathway. This is a norm in almost all cars I have seen fitted with rear parking sensors. They should fit the sensors on the corners.

This is more or less a design issue and should have been taken care of while in the initial Design stage of the vehicle.

As for the after run in testing, I took it to one of the newest and broadest two lane highways in India The Mega Highway (as its called). It connects Kandla Port in Gurjarat to Pathankot in Punjab and criss crosses the entire Rajasthan south to north.
I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4484_1.jpg
This vehicle is a real mile muncher. We started from Churu and took the Mega Highway at Ratangarh and went 40 Kms till Chhapar Black Buck Reserve. This vehicle accelerates much quicker then Innova (figures too show this but feels even quicker) and the engine feels punchy even at 100 Kmph in 5th. I could easily outrun almost all vehicles I saw during the drive. As for the road feel and cornering abilities, being a desert area, the road is at its curviest best and has some of the sharpest turns on the entire Mega Highway project.
I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4488.jpg
I threw it into some of the brutest corners and yes, I did feel the lack of confidence but that was something I did at 110-120 kmph and at these speeds, no other vehicle of such proportions can behave better even with the anti-roll bar in place. I could easily manage to keep it at 100 at turns seen in the pictures and felt it could take more. The standard 80-120 kmph in 5th gear was achieved in a quick 9 seconds. A long time Scorpio owner and a regular on those roads was in the back seat and was really impressed with the grip this vehicle had on this road and already started planing to get a Xylo for himself. You really feel planted and can munch mile after mile cruising easily at 100-140 kmph.

I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4489.jpg
I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4485.jpg

On the way back, after Ratangarh and not on the same Mega Highway saw an Innova driven quite like a fire tender. The driver seemed quite in a hurry. Thought lets see how it fairs. I started tail gating. I knew the Innova was being pushed to the limits by the driver by the smoke it was emitting at each gear. He was doing 110-120 on that road and I effortlessly was able to be at his tail constantly and felt like with a little push of the peddle, could out run him.


To be Continued....

Coming next: Xylo in uncharted Territory!

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Old 24th February 2009, 17:26   #107
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Vinay,

Good report and a first here.

You are very proud of your work horse, aren't you?

Good going mate!

Unfortunate about the dent at the back, looks bad! But then, let it be there for all those evil eyes!

Whoa... and you still have that ribbon on the hood. How do you manage to keep it clean? Do you wash it and re-band?
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Old 24th February 2009, 17:37   #108
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Vinay Bhai, your initial ownership reports have been of excellent quality!
Good to know that you are finding Xylo upto the mark. Everyday I am coming across more and more XYLOs on Noida roads. I feel this vehicle is going to enjoy huge success.

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nice review mate. you are a real proud xylo owner i feel.

i own a innova & so i know that innova is slower than the xylo.

very sad to know about the dent though. if you go through the manual, most probably it will have a statement like this:
"reverse sensors are only indicative. DO NOT rely entirely upon it for reversing. the responsibilty of the car solely relies on the driver itself. NO claims can be made due to damage caused because of rear sensors"!!!
now i know what mahindra means.
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Old 24th February 2009, 22:01   #110
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Vinay,

Good report and a first here.

You are very proud of your work horse, aren't you?

Good going mate!

Unfortunate about the dent at the back, looks bad! But then, let it be there for all those evil eyes!

Whoa... and you still have that ribbon on the hood. How do you manage to keep it clean? Do you wash it and re-band?
Thanks buddy! Its just been there, we do not wash or clean it. Did not remove it just like that.

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Vinay Bhai, your initial ownership reports have been of excellent quality!
Good to know that you are finding Xylo upto the mark. Everyday I am coming across more and more XYLOs on Noida roads. I feel this vehicle is going to enjoy huge success.

Cheers,
Deepak
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nice review mate. you are a real proud xylo owner i feel.

i own a innova & so i know that innova is slower than the xylo.

very sad to know about the dent though. if you go through the manual, most probably it will have a statement like this:
"reverse sensors are only indicative. DO NOT rely entirely upon it for reversing. the responsibilty of the car solely relies on the driver itself. NO claims can be made due to damage caused because of rear sensors"!!!
now i know what mahindra means.
Thanks Raj! Yes, its there in the manual.

And guys its not about being proud, its more of being happy that my gamble seems to be paying off. I totally relied on the Scorpio success story and invested in an all new vehicle without any thorough test drive. Now that its going beyond expectations, I think the 3-4 lacs I saved in not going for an Innova has doubled!

Its always a personal opinion that really matters. I have been going through the Xylo Vs Innova thread and saw various opinions. For me, all that matters at the end of the day is a job well done and the Xylo does more then that and yes, surely without the quality that the Innova offers. But then, thats what I paid for.

All in all, I am getting more of what I paid for. And that's all I think that counts.

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vinay, firstly congratulations on your new buy, VFM car with gr8 stunning colour u choosed. Was wonderful to go through your comments and your review of your journey so far with your horse. Sorry for that dent but as raj said thats what sensors manual says dont rely on them completely. Happy journey miles ahead with more review by ur side.CHEERS!!!
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Fantastic drive report, rathoreji!

Anyone who had a doubt on the ride quality would be impressed reading this!

The Xylo red looks nice on the roads. But i'm still wondering why the M&M design engineers made the front grill look like a 2 tooth rabbit faced with the crome band in the grill. (No offense to you)

Happy to read the review though!

Cheers~
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Just rated this thread as 5 star.

Excellent job.
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Fantastic drive report, rathoreji!

Anyone who had a doubt on the ride quality would be impressed reading this!

The Xylo red looks nice on the roads. But i'm still wondering why the M&M design engineers made the front grill look like a 2 tooth rabbit faced with the crome band in the grill. (No offense to you)

Happy to read the review though!

Cheers~
Thanks Rudrah! I guess, in keeping the family look, they could not think of anything else?

You have cropped it really well, that's the only area I don't really like in the design part.

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Excellent job.
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Default continued....Xylo in uncharted territory!

Now, the next day, it was the time for some off road stuff. Though its not a vehicle built to do all that but the Xylo felt amazingly at home off the road too. We had a family function at a remote village that by road was 50 Kms and if you take a kaccha route was 35. Dad asked me if we can manage with the Xylo on that route. I decided to go for it. After about 10 kms from the town, we took a detour to a Kaccha trail.

I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-23022009315.jpg
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We had a Mahindra 4Wd Commander(though I am not sure his 4WD was working or if he ever engaged it) in front that we were following. Initially the track was pretty easy and doable in an 800 and I could manage to click pictures while driving. Later after about 5 odd kms, the track turned into a Desert Safari and many a times, the Jeep in front could be seen struggling. I was constantly in 3rd and managed to cross most of the bumps (they are boundaries of made our of heeps of sand) baring one, were anticipating trouble, I increased the speed planning to cross the dune with momentum.

I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4557.jpg

As I came on top of the dune, I saw the Jeep stuck and moving inch by inch. I had to apply sudden brakes. This could be a disaster for any vehicle in that situation as it will lead to the vehicle dug deep in sand. However, sensing this, I somehow managed to bring the vehicle in 1st and barely saved from hitting the jeep. The good thing was, we did not stop and with slight efforts, were out from it. The Bridgestone 275/70 R15s helped me in this too. Some how reached the village.

I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4558.jpg

While on way back, I inadvertently, at one kaccha intersection (yes they have intersections and their own network of kaccha tracks) lost the way and once I was already a 100 meters on the wrong one, we decided to get on to the right one. But the question was, how. Well, fearful initially, all I had to do was sway towards the right, downed to 2nd and rev a bit high. I was making my own road. It was an amazing experience. The vehicle easily made 200 Meters of its own road. That too in plain sandy desert. I did that because of the confidence that the Xylo built in me in all the 40 odd Kms I had done since I last saw the road.

I got home the Xylo E6! UPDATE: Pics & 3000kms report (post #106 onwards)-dscf4548.jpg

All in all it was an experience to be had. I still feel that if they offer a 4WD in this vehicle, it will easly do stuff what the mHawk and the Safari 4WD cannot do. All because of the excellent off road dynamics this vehicle offers.

I will not compare it with the Innova here. Not on this terrain. Period.


To be continued.....

Coming next: Detailed pictorial

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Lovely pics Vinay, brings back memories of my college days at BITS. About the blinking light on the dash, may be M&M forgot to remove the function related to overspeed indication they have in the E8 ?
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I still feel that if they offer a 4WD in this vehicle, it will easly do stuff what the mHawk and the Safari 4WD cannot do.
That is difficult to believe.
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Lovely pics Vinay, brings back memories of my college days at BITS. About the blinking light on the dash, may be M&M forgot to remove the function related to overspeed indication they have in the E8 ?
Indivic, its not a light, its just a beep that is triggered asa I go past 130kmph.

BTW, Xylo has two kinds of warning system. One is the vehicle's default warning that warns of Seat Belt, door ajar and handbrake etc. After this warning, the DDAS comes into play and it again warns you as you cross 20 kmph. The DDAS warns you for Seat Belts with a text warning on the screen with a different kind of beep. It also has a configurable overspeed alert that can be set at 80, 100 and 120 kmph. It shows a warning on the screen and beeps asa you cross that speed. If you acknowledge the warning by pressing the third button, it will not alert you again till you start the vehicle again. However, in the 130 case, the DDAS overspeed alert was set at 100kmph and I had already acknowledged it. It was not the DDAS but the vehicle's default warning.

What I am really confused about is if it will continue to warn me at 130? Did it warned me since the vehicle is new and the ECU did'nt wanted me to over stess itself?

I guess I have to wait till I take her for the first service to get the answer.
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That is difficult to believe.
Hi rrsteer! Even I got to know this after driving all three in that terrain!
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...All in all, I am getting more of what I paid for. And that's all I think that counts.
At the end of the day, this is what all that counts.
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