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Old 25th April 2010, 09:28   #181
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Krish, if you know fellow BHPian Joben from Blore (lionheart133 IIRC), try his rocket - it is shod with 205/50 R15 S.Drives and the braking is top notch. Or we can meet up sometime and you have a push of my car too. I just did a Madras - Hosur - Madras sprint yesterday, and had a few instances of pedestrians running across the highway at 2:30 AM, while I was doing 140 KMPH!!! Needless to say, the brakes and the handling of the rocket was implicit.

The only situation that I know the rocket would be in a spot would be hard braking in loose gravel / sandy conditions - it WILL skid there. Otherwise, it is the tires - they make a hell of a difference.
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Krish.

What parts are out of stock ?

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Cons of i20 w.r.t Getz
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1) ENGINE!!!! Absolutely no feel of torque/power/turbo. Even at 2500rpm, it felt like a turbo lag zone. There was no turbo kick whatsoever. I was disappointed with power delivery. The engine was also noisy compared to the Getz. I love the silence in the Getz cabin at highway speeds.
drive. The Getz on other hand, chills at setting 2 itself. I mostly keep it at setting 1 and adjust the thermostat as per needs.

U will have to totally forget about this parameter if u want to buy a car in future. I really doubt if any manufacturer will provide us a car with such raw power ever again.
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Old 25th April 2010, 14:02   #183
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+1 to that. Unless you are willing to spend $$$ on a car pretty high up the D segment, you would not get this raw feel of power. I guess that is why I would not be changing cars for a long time to come.
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+1 to that. Unless you are willing to spend $$$ on a car pretty high up the D segment, you would not get this raw feel of power. I guess that is why I would not be changing cars for a long time to come.
But do keep this is mind that safety & stopping power is paramount than raw power.
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The only situation that I know the rocket would be in a spot would be hard braking in loose gravel / sandy conditions - it WILL skid there.
This has everything to do with the tyres and sporty tyres are designed for Tarmac.
My Pilot Preceda 2s say ta-ta to me on gravel/loose sand as well.
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Prajesh-its the bonnet, side fender and the plastic guard behind bumper which is out of stock.

Phoenix- next time you come to bangy, gimme a ring. My number is 9663304694
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Krish: I totally agree with you.

I took the test drive of the i20 CRDI before buying the Getz and took it for a long drive ( almost the entire stretch of Hosur road in peak hour traffic ) but found the i20 almost lifeless. Then took the test drive of Verna Diesel alias getz in the same stretch and immediately paid the advance for booking one of the last few Getz's that were available.

With the tyre upsize ( I am running on 195/50/15 S-drives on alloys ), I have not faced any issues so far. My average speeds are 60s in city and ~120's on the highways and with alertness and carr, you could control the car the way you want to !!

I am also worried about the availability of the spares for the Getz now.

Good luck with your car and hope its fixed at the earliest.

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Cons of i20 w.r.t Getz
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1) ENGINE!!!! Absolutely no feel of torque/power/turbo. Even at 2500rpm, it felt like a turbo lag zone. There was no turbo kick whatsoever. I was disappointed with power delivery. The engine was also noisy compared to the Getz. I love the silence in the Getz cabin at highway speeds.[/quote]

Really? I quite disagree with this, while it may not feel like the getz, the turbo kick is very prominent, and power delivery is good. Maybe something wrong with the car you drove. Check out my car at one of the meets. Also, one thing i've noticed is that if the car is driven slowly for some time, the kick becomes more linear, but start driving it in a more spirited manner, and the power delivery becomes more prominent. i know it sounds silly, but I've heard the same from a few Getz crdi owners on the forum too.

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2) Steering!!! I just hate the EPS. I didn't feel like I was driving. Total Disconnect. Hyundai, please change it. Simply no comparison here.
Yep! Steering is very light and takes time getting used to.But is the getz better off? The steering in the getz seemed vague to me, especially when the turbo kicked ion hard, it was like all over the place. (Its fun tho! )

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3) Pedal feel is absent. Didn't feel anything on pressing clutch/accelerator. Only good thing was brakes.
???

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4) Ride quality. I felt the Getz was more comfy than i20. Suspension felt hard in i20.
Yep! The getz ride quality is simply brilliant. i wonder why hyundai could not get it right for the i20. Especially at the rear. But the handling is better than the getz, so I can live with the suspension.

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5) Handling. I was surprised here. I felt the Getz handled better than i20, inspite of i20 seemingly having a harder suspension. I didn't get the confidence as in Getz while slicing through traffic.
My vote here goes for the i20, i really did not feel confident in the getz. i drove a fellow members rocket in bangalore, and it was nervous taking turns at 80, tires crying for mercy (with 195 tires), whereas the i20 can confidently take it at higher speeds on stock footwear.

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6) Visibility. The overall visibility in i20 is pretty poor compared to Getz. Its got more to do with modern design.
Very true. The i20 has a lot of blind spots, thanks to the large pillars and those huge seats. Can be verrry frustrating at times.

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7) Space. i20 inspite of looking bigger on outside isn't spacious on inside. Getz is far more spacious and has an airy feel.
Again true, and the closed up feeling is more at the rear, thanks to the big front seats, high door panels, and the small rear window. Legroom is okay though. But not in getz league.

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8) In all seat height positions, my left leg was hitting the tray under the steering of the i20. Never faced this on Getz.
Never faced this problem.


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9) AC. The Auto AC in i20 disappointed me. Even at 17 C, it didn't chill the cabin in the 15-20 mins of drive. The Getz on other hand, chills at setting 2 itself. I mostly keep it at setting 1 and adjust the thermostat as per needs
Again true, the AC is inadequate. The only option is to put on good quality tints. I dunno what Hyundai was thinking when they put in this AC unit for the car.

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As for seats, I will think about putting some seat covers which will give some thigh support as well. Only problem here is heat generated by the seat covers. Almost everyone here has done it.
Krish, the drivers seat of the getz is already quite high and feels like sitting in an MPV. Adding a seat cover will worsen this feeling. Slip on covers will not give u any additional support, instead will flatten out the seat and ruin it. Instead of adding such a slip on cover go to a good set guy like stanley, and make a custom stitched seat. They will remove the existing fabric cover, and replace it with their own.You can add custom contours then. Also do not go for art leather, it will add to the heat and the sweat, go for something which is commonly called 'touch leather' by the upholstery guys. Basically, it means that, the portions which come into contact with the body are leather, while the rest, (like back of the seats, sides etc) are all art leather. This will reduce the cost to a large extent.


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Now I'm impatiently waiting for my Rocket to be back from hospital and then..... TAKE OFF!!!!
Hope the rocket 'getz' back to ship shape soon, and back to where it belongs. The roads!



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But do keep this is mind that safety & stopping power is paramount than raw power.
Yep, power is no good without handling, and especially, braking!

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Old 26th April 2010, 10:48   #189
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Hey Jay.. pleased to know that you still check the site. Was waiting for updates on your i20 thread.

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Really? I quite disagree with this, while it may not feel like the getz, the turbo kick is very prominent, and power delivery is good. Maybe something wrong with the car you drove. Check out my car at one of the meets. Also, one thing i've noticed is that if the car is driven slowly for some time, the kick becomes more linear, but start driving it in a more spirited manner, and the power delivery becomes more prominent. i know it sounds silly, but I've heard the same from a few Getz crdi owners on the forum too.
As an i20 owner, you would know the car better. I would love to drive your car.

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Yep! Steering is very light and takes time getting used to.But is the getz better off? The steering in the getz seemed vague to me, especially when the turbo kicked ion hard, it was like all over the place. (Its fun tho! )
That was the torque steer. I do it when I have a clear road ahead. Its fun at times. The Getz steering did not feel vague to me, though its not as direct as the brilliant Fiesta steering

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Will explain when we meet next, on your car itself. Remind me please

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My vote here goes for the i20, i really did not feel confident in the getz. i drove a fellow members rocket in bangalore, and it was nervous taking turns at 80, tires crying for mercy (with 195 tires), whereas the i20 can confidently take it at higher speeds on stock footwear.
Maybe it had to do with the test drive car. Will try it on yours

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Never faced this problem.
There's a height and size difference between us and a huge one at that

@Prajesh- There is one car under 20 lakhs which impressed me a lot .. CRUZE. (This is apart from the BMW 320D and the C 220CDI and Merc E350D which were the most expensive cars I've driven)

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@Prajesh- There is one car under 20 lakhs which impressed me a lot .. CRUZE. (This is apart from the BMW 320D and the C 220CDI and Merc E350D which were the most expensive cars I've driven)


CRUZE is the best possible upgrade after driving the Getz CRDi but it costs 2 times of Getz.
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Or imagine if they put the Cruze engine in a Beat purely to copy Hyundai's approach, lol . That would be the best possible upgrade for a hot hatch.

PS : its just a quirk before everyone gets technical. .
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^^^ Hahahah .. If chevy does that i'm getting a BEAT


Afaik i20 is pretty decent. I dont know much about the AC hassles that everyone is facing here. But the power delivery although not at the same level as the Getz CRDi, is pretty decent. The car is fast and can pick up serious speeds. With safety equipment provided you are safe too.
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CRUZE is the best possible upgrade after driving the Getz CRDi but it costs 2 times of Getz.
One might find a sweet deal after 2 years in the pre-owned market. But have a look at this link, checkout out the power to weight ratio & the peak torque at rpms? It would be interesting to know who is faster here to say 150, but I feel there won't much of a diff.

Chevrolet Cruze LTZ vs Hyundai Getz Prime 1.5 GVS CRDi | Car Comparisons - CarWale.com

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i20's AC issues have been blown out of proportion here on TBHP. On TBHP, we've more Puntos than i20's but on roads, the case is otherwise. We don't even know what proportion of BHPians owning i20's are facing problems yet we stereotype the entire i20 range to be a failure when it comes to cooling. I myself have an i20 and never faced issues comparable to the genuine grievances by few BHPians here.

Hyundai has been proactive when it comes to rectifications, the recent example of Rubber Covers being installed to protect the ECU's supplements my point. aZa, you must have taken a ride in Gunbir Veerji's i20 and hope you can add to the discussion (inputs from Gunbir Veerji are also awaited).
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^^^ Thats just explained why the Getz CRDi has been a gem in the making and shall join the GTX as an Indian hatch legend . We've never had to complain about anything bar the lack of ABS - which even the GTX doesnt.
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