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Old 20th February 2013, 13:54   #316
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Sharath, to me, both the above cases have even probability with a sensible driver at the wheel.
A sensible driver doesn't necessarily mean 4WD aware driver. A 4WD aware driver will know the difference between the above cases very clearly. I know lot of sensible drivers who don't have a clue about 4WD driving, which is perfectly fine.

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Since I know that my front axle doesn't have traction, I will do my best to ensure that at least one rear wheel has traction.
That is perfectly fine too. On offroad trails, a 2WD with locker is definitely better than 2WD with open diff. But doesn't come close to a 4WD. You should accept that reality.
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You should accept that reality.
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I do not intend to do OTRs and I know that on a pure OTR track, a 2WD will always have its limitations compared to a 4WD.
I have, in my first reply to your question Sharath. Let us stop this banter now.
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I have, in my first reply to your question Sharath.
I was originally replying to Gurudutt who thought 2WD with MLD is 99% 4WD.

Later you said...
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Sharath, to me, both the above cases have even probability with a sensible driver at the wheel.
That made me clarify the point further.

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Let us stop this banter now.
You just installed MLD, and we are discussing its technical merits. How is it banter?
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I was originally replying to Gurudutt who thought 2WD with MLD is 99% 4WD.
To your reply, I said

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I do not intend to do OTRs and I know that on a pure OTR track, a 2WD will always have its limitations compared to a 4WD.
And yet, you said,

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But doesn't come close to a 4WD. You should accept that reality.
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You just installed MLD, and we are discussing its technical merits. How is it banter?
Now you know why it is banter.
Anyway, I need to go test it out now. See ya in some.
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Sharath, it wasn't in a literal sense. It was a generalised statement to convey that in a day-to-day running when you suddenly find yourself in a sticky situation, a 4x2 with MLD has lot more greater chances of getting out than a normal 4x2.

A 4x4 is a specialised function required in extreme situations. I don't think anyone sensible would venture into a OTR with a 4x2 + MLD.

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...I need to go test it out now. See ya in some.
Dev - how did it go?
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Dev - how did it go?
It was dark by the time we got to the trail and hence couldn't test it much. What was tested was it functioning in forward and reverse gears and it was working.
And yes, I managed to get Hariya stuck, deliberately though.., so the pintle hook too was tested.

We plan to do it this weekend in daylight. I will share the findings.
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And yes, I managed to get Hariya stuck, deliberately though.., so the pintle hook too was tested. .
And I pretended I wasn't around, just to see you get your hands dirty, fish out your MaxTraxx and dig in the dirt. The point is the kind of sticky situation you were in yesterday, you could have done a self-rescue with a little more digging and getting the MaxTraxx under the wheels securely. But because it was dark, and being a desolate area, we gave up and resorted to the good old 5-T tow strap.

Let's do a better one on Saturday afternoon, this time in slush.

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Let's do a better one on Saturday afternoon, this time in slush. Cheers,
While the Saturday OTR turned out to be a pretty mild one and all 3 Scorpios simply walked through it, here are a couple of pics:

Post this, I left for Bangalore at 2300HRS via the GGN-FBD hill road. It was raining all through the night when Hariya was battling the dilapidated Gwalior-Jhansi section.
Here, I heard the brakes grind a couple of times upon medium braking and it set my senses on high alert. Since most other cities were crossed either during the night or at odd hours, I decided to stop at the Mahindra ASC at Kurnool and get his brakes checked. I was the 2nd customer to roll in and was attended to by a 9yr experienced mechanic, Sagar.

I noticed something interesting at the ASC here.
There were a lot of monkeys, no, not the grease monkeys but real rhesus monkeys at the workshop. They were on the girders between the corrugated sheet and the roof and were jumping around.

Sagar told me that they are a big menace and get inside cars being serviced looking for food, bottles, and anything that looks or smells interesting.

All four wheels were opened, the brake pads, linings, discs and drums cleaned and checked, "OCA brakes" in M&M lingo. There was no fault found and they were reassembled.
Since I had time at my disposal, I thought of getting Hariya's 80K km service done here as well.
Accordingly, the engine oil, gearbox oil, differential oil, clutch oil and the coolant were replaced.
Hariya was given a quick wash at 1500HRS and I was back on the highway by 1530HRS after paying a bill of INR 8600.00.

OT: The new Mahindra Maximile Feo is claimed to a synthetic engine oil requiring change at every 15k kms now. Is this correct?

Fuel Efficiency Update:

I maintained a speed of 120kmph on the highway as far as possible and the average fuel efficiency till Kurnool was 10.46-10.67kmpl, measured on a tankful to tankful basis. Every alternate tank saw the addition of Sys-D.

There seems to have been a slight drop in the FE compared to the previous figures and I attribute it to multiple reasons:

1. The brand new Geolandars are very grippy.
2. The new MLD is yet to run-in.
3. The clutch, at 85k km is not exactly very new.

Post Kurnool, the same speeds were maintained but the fuel efficiency increased to 10.89kmpl by the time I reached Bangalore, so it seems like the service has had a good effect on the fuel efficiency.

The next planned trip is the annual Kolkata trip for the Puja this year.
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OT: The new Mahindra Maximile Feo is claimed to a synthetic engine oil requiring change at every 15k kms now. Is this correct?
Only 284/litre for a synth oil???

For mHawk Scorpios at least, the change interval specified in the maintenance schedule is 20k kms after the 20k service. It's another thing altogether that very few owners actually stick to such a big gap between oil changes.

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Only 284/litre for a synth oil???
Which is precisely my question too.

And, like you said, I would never keep my engine oil beyond 10k kms, irrespective of what its manufacturer or my car manufacturer recommends.
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Only 284/litre for a synth oil???

For mHawk Scorpios at least, the change interval specified in the maintenance schedule is 20k kms after the 20k service. It's another thing altogether that very few owners actually stick to such a big gap between oil changes.

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Which is precisely my question too.

And, like you said, I would never keep my engine oil beyond 10k kms, irrespective of what its manufacturer or my car manufacturer recommends.
This is not FS pretty sure about it,in all probability its semi synthetic.
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Which is precisely my question too.
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This is not FS pretty sure about it,in all probability its semi synthetic.
Akshay, you're right. Just checked the XUVs user manual online and it says Maximile FEO is API CH-4 SAE 15W40. So, I think it's the usual Maximile mineral oil garnished with a heavy dose of M&M marketing spiel, just like Castrol Magnatec's "synthetic technology" and "intelligent molecules"!

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I don't trust M&M's Maximile at all. Hence I change at every 5k Kms in the TB II. Waiting for the warranty to get over. It has already done 25k Kms and another 25K to go. After that bye-bye to ASC.

Back to Chevron oil...!
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Waiting for the warranty to get over. It has already done 25k Kms and another 25K to go. After that bye-bye to ASC.
You are amongst the few lucky ones who have been able to get such a capable FNG Panditji. I m yet to find one at Bangalore.

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If so, what size and weight restrictions. I intend to buy a XUV and it would be very useful for me to have a rear luggage carrier.
I m sure it is possible to fit a pintle hook to the XUV's rear bumper with some minor modifications like I did on Hariya last month at Gurgaon. Attached is a pic of the same.
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