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Old 6th March 2013, 04:44   #331
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Hi Dev,

Thank you for your response and the picture.

I am actually looking for a foldable luggage rack which sits on a hitch hook on the likes of the link below.

http://www.amazon.com/Lund-601001-Hi...+cargo+carrier
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I am actually looking for a foldable luggage rack which sits on a hitch hook on the likes of the link below.
Such a rack can easily be fabricated and modified to sit on the hook that I have installed.
Also, this is quite a simple attachment and can be totally fabricated to your requirements pretty easily here at Bangalore or at Gurgaon.
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Such a rack can easily be fabricated and modified to sit on the hook that I have installed.
Also, this is quite a simple attachment and can be totally fabricated to your requirements pretty easily here at Bangalore or at Gurgaon.
Hi Dev,

Thanks for your response. Fabrication - I can easily get it done in Hyd, where I belong to! I was wanting to know if there is any straight fit options available for long drives(which I do often).
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***Update***

Hariya has been his usual reliable self for the past 10k kms.

We just finished a 3500kms round trip to the back of beyond of the Great Rann of Kutch and here are a few pictures and statistics of it.
The places covered were Bhuj, Banni Plains, the Great Rann, Kori Creek, Lakhpat, Koteshwar, Dholavira, Lothal, Sardar Post, Mandvi and others.
Kms Covered: 3500 approximately.
Duration: 9 days.
Overall cruising speed on highways: 120kmph.
Overall cruising speed on 2 lane roads: 90kmph.
Overall fuel efficiency: 11.4 kmpl.
Issues: The front RH foglamp broke on the NH-8 by a flying stone from a truck. It was promptly replaced at the M&M dealership at Bhuj, M/s Mangatram Motors for INR 850.00
Punctures: None.

Satisfaction Quotient: Immense..!!!

Here are a few pictures of the trip.

To sum it up, Hariya continues to delight me so completely, every time, even after 6 years and 95k kms of ownership.

Hats Off...!!!


OT: Mods: Please change the title of the thread to

Hariya:Scorpio CRDe with a tail and an MLD: 93k kms Update.
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The front RH foglamp broke on the NH-8 by a flying stone from a truck. It was promptly replaced at the M&M dealership at Bhuj, M/s Mangatram Motors for INR 850.00
wow, a big pardon to all the detailing junkies, but this is just how a SUV should look - muddy and no nonsense. congrats on the 95K. Hitting 1 lac will be a memorable moment. Rs.850 dealership price for the foglamp is refreshing to hear!
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Way to go, Dev!

Getting close to the big 1; any more long drives planned?

How are the MLD's holding out? Where they put to use in this trip?
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Rs.850 dealership price for the foglamp is refreshing to hear!
Indeed, made me feel glad too..!!
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Way to go, Dev!

Getting close to the big 1; any more long drives planned?

How are the MLD's holding out? Where they put to use in this trip?
Thank you Suresh..!!

The next planned long drive is to Pench in December though I wont be surprised if something else comes up sooner...!!

The MLD is doing great. During the current drive, I attempted to drive up an old abandoned fort and on a very steep right hander, I had to stop Hariya to check if I had enough clearance between a rock to my left and the fort wall to my right.
The incline was stony, grassy, mossy and very steep.

After I got down to check the clearance, I pulled the handbrake, built up revs and dumped the clutch.

While Hariya began to push himself up through the 3ft deep grass and rocks, his left wheel climbed up on a rock and that left the right wheel spinning on the wet and slushy grass.

I was nervous since there was no place to reverse.

I kept up the revs and in less than a minute later, his MLD locked itself into place and his left wheel heaved him out with a mighty tug.

We reached the top...!!!
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Sharath, it wasn't in a literal sense. It was a generalised statement to convey that in a day-to-day running when you suddenly find yourself in a sticky situation, a 4x2 with MLD has lot more greater chances of getting out than a normal 4x2.

A 4x4 is a specialised function required in extreme situations. I don't think anyone sensible would venture into a OTR with a 4x2 + MLD.
Was generally going through the thread and the Thread title got my attention and since i had visited the thread sometime back i thought to my self What on earth could MLD mean and my apologies in advance, i thought Hariya had gone through a Mid Life Disaster however as usual T-Bhp enlightens me on what an MLD is would never have known.

Also i can relate to what an MLD would have done for me last year this time if tata made one i would definately have got one. Why i would have got one and why dev got one can be explained from my snap from last year

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Dear Dev,
Congratulations man! Hariya is looking fresher and better than the day you brought it.

Few questions :
1. What is the feedback on the MLD? Sorry if I missed it anywhere.
2. How is the clutch performing? I have not read anything about the clutch in your ownership review.
3. From where did you get the original wheel caps? How much did it cost?
4. Do you have the soft copy of the owners Manual/Service Manual?

Yes , for "Guruji is lucky to have a trusted FNG".

I would love to see Hariya, TB (I & II) and FOX together someday. Are you still in Gurgaon?

ATB for 1Lakh KMS and more..

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Dear Dev,
Congratulations man! Hariya is looking fresher and better than the day you brought it.
Thank you, G2, for your kind wishes. I have tried to maintain him to the best of my ability and time but have been marred by the lack of a closed parking space and time constraints.

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Few questions :
1. What is the feedback on the MLD? Sorry if I missed it anywhere.
2. How is the clutch performing? I have not read anything about the clutch in your ownership review.
3. From where did you get the original wheel caps? How much did it cost?
The MLD is performing perfectly and is now 10k kms old. I have had ZERO issues with it and it has taken me out of multiple situations where I would be stuck without it.

My clutch is the OEM clutch and is performing perfectly. It is still soft, effective and smooth.

I purchased the wheel caps from Durga Auto Agencies, the M&M dealer at Mayapuri though they were silver. I then got them painted at Rakesh Automobiles, Gurgaon, Guruji's FNG. The wheel caps costed me INR 1100 or so for a pair and the painting cost me around INR 300.00 for both.


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I would love to see Hariya, TB (I & II) and FOX together someday. Are you still in Gurgaon?
I m at Bangalore now though I keep traveling to the NCR and across the country pretty frequently.

Are you in Gurgaon these days?
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Also i can relate to what an MLD would have done for me last year this time if tata made one i would definately have got one.
While there is no no MLD available from Tata, you can explore the possibility of getting rear Limited Slip Differential from Safari 4x4.
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Thank you, G2, for your kind wishes. I have tried to maintain him to the best of my ability and time but have been marred by the lack of a closed parking space and time constraints.


The MLD is performing perfectly and is now 10k kms old. I have had ZERO issues with it and it has taken me out of multiple situations where I would be stuck without it.

My clutch is the OEM clutch and is performing perfectly. It is still soft, effective and smooth.

I purchased the wheel caps from Durga Auto Agencies, the M&M dealer at Mayapuri though they were silver. I then got them painted at Rakesh Automobiles, Gurgaon, Guruji's FNG. The wheel caps costed me INR 1100 or so for a pair and the painting cost me around INR 300.00 for both.




I m at Bangalore now though I keep traveling to the NCR and across the country pretty frequently.

Are you in Gurgaon these days?
Yes Dev,
I am in Gurgaon now and will be here for some more months. Let's catch up whenever you are here next. We can request Guruji, RP, Mayank and other Scorpions to join in too if available.

Btw, you missed my edited question. Do you have the service manual/user manual of Hariya? If you can pass on the soft copy/scanned copy, I will be greatfull to you bud

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Do you have the service manual/user manual of Hariya? If you can pass on the soft copy/scanned copy, I will be grateful to you bud
I have his owners manual and will try to scan it for you. No issues.
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It had been 9k kms and a good 5 months since Hariya had been to a service station.
A few ailments were beginning to show up and I felt it was prudent to get them rectified. Accordingly, his 94k kms (93747km to be precise) was scheduled at Anant Cars the day before yesterday.

A few observations here:

1. I had booked the appointment by phone last Friday, however, when I reached the place, I was told that all the service bays and teams were busy clearing the old backlog of vehicles. If that was the case, why was I given a service appointment?

2. I was further told that while there would be no work done except the creation of a job card so that Hariya could "fall in line" and be wheeled into a bay as soon as one was available. If I had taken him back (a torturous 17kms in Blore traffic), I would have lost my slot.

The service advisor was not a very knowledgeable person but was attentive, diligent and accepted the fact that he did not know things but would make a note of them religiously.

That was all I needed since I know all the senior mechanics and team leaders there and more importantly, they know Hariya.

Unfortunately, a friend is getting married this weekend and there is a lot of preparation that I need to participate in, and hence, for the first time in my life, I agreed to leave Hariya at Anant Cars and came back home by bus.

I got a two calls from my service advisor. One, to take my approval for the replacement of the rear differential oil since there was water in it and two, to inform me that all work was completed and to tell me the total bill.

Work to be done:
  1. 1. Engine oil and oil filter to be replaced. They were 9k kms old. I know M&M tells me that its Maximile Feo is good for 15k kms, but do not believe in believing M&M or anyone who tells me that engine oil, especially in India can be used for more than 10k kms.

    2. Steering column to be replaced. It had been rattling away for the past 12k kms and I felt it was time to retire the old part and get it replaced.

    3. RHS ball joint to be replaced. Our test drive and inspection had revealed that it was damaged.

    4. Tailgate (dickey door in Blore lingo..!!) rattle to be fixed.

    5. The engine sump gasket had developed a leak and while engine oil never dripped to the ground, it was always wet and dirty around the rear of the sump near the clutch. Hence, the sump gasket was to be replaced.

    6. EGR Valve was supposed to be cleaned.

    7. The Engine & GB foundations had worn out (they were first replaced at 60k kms, wonder how they wore out so fast.) and hence, vibrations were on the higher side. They were to be replaced.

    8. The radiator top hose was wicking coolant. It was to be replaced.

I could not go to pick up Hariya yesterday and went there today instead.

While all the work was completed, there were a few things that caught my eye.
1. Grease marks on the dashboard, centre console and the door pads.
2. A piece of the dashboard plastic was not fitted properly.
3. The steering was not centered correctly.
4. One plastic lock on the Horn pad was broken.
5. The steering tilt mechanism was harder than before.
6. A couple of plastic eyehole covers from the rear view mirrors were missing.

I had the dashboard fitted correctly, the steering re-centered (though it is still slightly off to the left), loosened the tilt setting slightly (though it is still harder than before) and ignored the plastic locks and the eyelets.

Now for the $$$ damages:

Parts:

EGR Gasket: 87.34
Engine Mounting(F&R): 1327.52
Radiator bypass hose: 44.54
Coolant (2ltrs): 345.86
Sump Gasket: 218.34
Lower ball joint: 606.99
Spring Guide (clutch): 29.70
Steering Column: 3043.67
Thermostat "O" Ring: 14.85
Oil Filter: 131.88
Maximile Diff Oil (Elite): 586.03
Maximile Feo Engine Oil: 1514.40
RustOff Spray (2): 202.14
Wire Tag (For wheel covers): 34.92
Total Parts Bill: 9363.95

While this was okay, here comes the bad part:

Labor Details:

Clutch pedal adjust: 135.00- Are you kidding me??
Eng Oil and Oil filter replace: 350.00
Thermostat "O" Ring replace: 300.00- It takes 2 minutes and 6 turns of the spanner. The O ring costs 14.85INR and replacement for 300.00 INR???
Oil Sump & Gasket: 360.00 - The part costs 218.34.
Engine Insulators: 630.00
EGR Valve Remove and Refit: 225.00
Rear Axle Housing Cover: 225.00- Really M&M?? for tightening 5 bolts??
Steering Column Assy R&R: 1800.00- The part costs 3043.67.
Ball Joint R&R: 1035.00- The part costs 606.99.
Total Labor Bill-5685.39

The total bill was 15049.00 INR
Conclusion:
While Hariya feels tighter, smoother and better, M&M labor costs have certainly gone through the roof.

Will I buy an M&M vehicle again? No way.

Am I happy with Hariya? Delighted...!!!
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While Hariya feels tighter, smoother and better, M&M labor costs have certainly gone through the roof.
This is the same feeling i had when looking at the service bills on my Scorpio before it was sold. Every single time, the labor costs astounded me, and this coming from someone who owns a Ford as the other vehicle!
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