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Old 21st May 2011, 19:10   #271
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I find it better with IOC .

I used Mobil Delvac MX in the last fill. the vehicle is super smooth, and I feel that the it is easier to reach higher speed or climb steep inclines with full load. And definitely the engine is silent enough, but that may be due to the pump head change as well.

I am open for suggestions as it is time for another oil change now. This time the vehicle is running smooth even after close to 6.75k kms.
Shell Helix HX6 one of the best oil I have used till now in my Safari and Indica. Smoothness is super noticable immediately after the oil change. Cost is also only 200-210 Rs per liter.

A question, Do you also use 2T oil in Diesel?? Looks like only my car is running with out 2T Will have to try this now.
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I find it better with IOC .

I used Mobil Delvac MX in the last fill. the vehicle is super smooth, and I feel that the it is easier to reach higher speed or climb steep inclines with full load. And definitely the engine is silent enough, but that may be due to the pump head change as well.

I am open for suggestions as it is time for another oil change now. This time the vehicle is running smooth even after close to 6.75k kms.
Hi Suman,
I have in the past few years tried various engine oils for my diesel motors.
I found the LUBES from our PSUs very good. There is no advertisements for these oils but there is always a better chance of these oils actually conforming to specifications certified, rather than making some tall claims and misleading information on packaging.
I feel IOC Servo Pride TC is an excellent oil. Retails at about 13xx/ 7.5 lit. Meets CF4 and is graded 15w-40. I have used more expensive stuff but have found this one to be as good oils worth 1.5 times .
And IOC Futura D is excellent at a higher range- Meets CI - 15W-40 and formulated for use in vehicles fitted with catcon and egr. Only catch is the packing 4lit. AND 1 LIT. I had bought the 4lT. cans for 825/- Now may have shot up.
But i still thinks it is the best value ci rated oil available.
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I feel IOC Servo Pride TC is an excellent oil. Retails at about 13xx/ 7.5 lit. Meets CF4 and is graded 15w-40. I have used more expensive stuff but have found this one to be as good oils worth 1.5 times .
API-CH4 is the recommended oil for Tata Safari TCIC. So, anything lower might not be good for the health of engine. There are better options such as Shell, Mobil, Valvoline available.
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API-CH4 is the recommended oil for Tata Safari TCIC. So, anything lower might not be good for the health of engine. There are better options such as Shell, Mobil, Valvoline available.
Sure there are better oils having sludge busters, friction busters, sustained released molecules, with synthetic technology, magnetic molecules and what not.
I feel it is a ( safari TCIC , mine is 2004 ) atleast a decade old engine with tolerances designed for older oils.
The oils recomended for particular emission standard and particular fuel specification so .
So i feel CF4 rated oil may be as good for the engine life.
Infact i wouldnt be too surprised if this oil is actually better in a situation where we are getting euro-IV diesel.
Anyway no harm in sticking with what manufacturer specified oil. They ought to know better ,no ?
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I do not use 2T.

Recently I had to change the fuel pump head and in the process i had some interaction with Bosch. Before that, I used to use premium diesel always. They advised me to use plain diesel and System D every 5000 kms for best performance.

I am willing to try Shell or IOC. Problem with IOC Futura D is it is not commonly available in all pumps.
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Today only i bought 1 can of 4lit.@ 880/- mrp and 1 lit can @ 226/ MRP.
It seems to be available at big bunks only. And the SM rated 10w-30 Futura -P does not seem to be available anywhere.
Now i have supply for 2 oil changes for Safari. With oil rates going up , thought shall have stock for a yr. ( 2 changes @ 5000km each )
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Today only i bought 1 can of 4lit.@ 880/- mrp and 1 lit can @ 226/ MRP.
It seems to be available at big bunks only. And the SM rated 10w-30 Futura -P does not seem to be available anywhere.
Now i have supply for 2 oil changes for Safari. With oil rates going up , thought shall have stock for a yr. ( 2 changes @ 5000km each )
Our cars require 20w40 not 10w30 be very careful in selecting the grade of oil. You might have to bear with another wore engine in quick time. TCIC has already a revv'in engine, so if you put additional stress on it by using wrong grade of oil, you might have to pay hefty for that. Use only 20w40 or above.
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Nice photos, the car looks neat but is it repainted? How much did that woofer cost to you?
She's not repainted.. Bought her from the used car consultancy guys, they always do the rubbing polish to get that extra gloss.. Mech also said touch up work only, but not full body repainted..

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I think TCIC requires 15W40. There is a sticker on my dashboard and it says 15W40 oil to be changed at every 8000 kms.
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I think TCIC requires 15W40. There is a sticker on my dashboard and it says 15W40 oil to be changed at every 8000 kms.
Yes, that's the minimum required specs. One can use any Xw40 oil or Xw50 oil. For me using a 20w50 oil is better in this hot Sun of summer. Currently am using Castrol GTX Diesel 15w40 as used by TASC. No problems, but still the car rests in garage for a long long time.
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Our cars require 20w40 not 10w30 be very careful in selecting the grade of oil. You might have to bear with another wore engine in quick time. TCIC has already a revv'in engine, so if you put additional stress on it by using wrong grade of oil, you might have to pay hefty for that. Use only 20w40 or above.
The 10w-30 SM futura P is for my gasoline logan I was only referring the availability at IOC bunks.
The 15w-40 CI rated fUTURA D is for my TCIC safari.
And i feel a 15w-40 is the right grade of oil for the turbo of safari. 20w-40 is still a bit thick.I would stick to 15w-40 for a turbo diesel like SAFARI TCIC and a 20w-40 for a Naturally aspirated 483 dl of earlier sumo.
Actually 15w-50 would be the right grade for a hot country like ours with the high ambient temperature. But unfortunately its not available in India.

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Recommended oil for Safari is 15w40 .. why would you want to try 20W40 ?
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Recommended oil for Safari is 15w40 .. why would you want to try 20W40 ?
Ditto my take.
20w-40 may simply ruin the turbo in colder times and cold starts.
20w-40 is ok for the NA diesels not for the turbo diesels.
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20W40 is for the Sumo, though a lot of the smaller oil retailers try to push it for the safari saying the engine is the same. It is a bit different.
15W40 is for the Safari TCIC

Castrol Superplus 15W40 (a bit hard to get) - but is what I used the most.
Mobile Delvac 15W40

Are the two that I stuck with for 175,000 kms all through.
You can go to 5/10W40/50 but not higher that 15 or lower than 40 in 15W40
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Castrol GTX Diesel is a good oil. Last time I used Mobil Delvac MX. Initially the engine was smooth but again I had to change oil at 6.75k kms. With Castrol also I get the oil changed at 6k-6.5k kms. With the fact that it is hard to get Mobil Delvac or IOC, and that there is a risk of parts changed outside, I might stick to OEM oil change for a while.
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