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Old 19th August 2013, 22:20   #166
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Actually many parts made by Indian manufacturers are of good quality and cost a fraction of the OEM. The OEM for palio's is ridiculously expensive as most of it is imported. The brands stocked by 99rpm are generally of good quality. Case in matter, OEM brake pads/calipers for Palio which are TVS Girling cost more than TVS Girling (having same part number) in the open market.

I need to replace my front suspension. Shocks + Lower arm soon. Have found a quality manufacturer (after market) for lower arms. Am still looking for good after market struts that would cost me lesser than the OEM ones. The OEM ones are around 10k a pair. Please help!
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The OEM ones are Magnetti Marelli Cofap which is why they are expensive. These were imported from SA or Brazil since day one and were always expensive.

You do get non-OEM ones manufactured by Gabriel, to name one, which cost a fraction of this (~Rs. 1500) and may perform just as well if not better. Do note, that these are prone to failure, earlier than the OEM ones.

My original front struts are still performing fine, after about 90,000 Kms, so far. the after-market ones may last you 30-50,000 Kms depending on how you use the car.
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Found a picture of the car today, from one of our road trips up north (Corbett). Thought i should share it here.
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Zoombie,

The OEM ones are Magnetti Marelli Cofap which is why they are expensive. These were imported from SA or Brazil since day one and were always expensive.

You do get non-OEM ones manufactured by Gabriel, to name one, which cost a fraction of this (~Rs. 1500) and may perform just as well if not better. Do note, that these are prone to failure, earlier than the OEM ones.

My original front struts are still performing fine, after about 90,000 Kms, so far. the after-market ones may last you 30-50,000 Kms depending on how you use the car.
Yup I agree. Any idea of the gabriel part number and place from where I can get it? I think Gabriel is OEM for many Indian and international car makers and should have good quality.
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yes. even i would like to know the part number for gabreil. I checked with the distributor and he said there is no part for palio
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This is weird. I just checked the product catalog for Gabriel and cant find any parts for the Palio. Not sure if they stopped manufacturing the part.
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99RPM has original Cofap struts in stock. I, however did not get Cofap so had to get Excep Power gas struts for the front instead.I don't regret the decision though, its a bit stiffer than cofap struts but the body roll is lesser!
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Dea r friends,

I have a set of unused COFAP shocks which I bought for my Palio1.9 D and the same Palio is no more with me.

Recently i took a Palio MJD and I think this one might not suit MJD.

Anyway If anyone needs the rear shocks then you may send an email to dsd 111@ gmail.com

By the way,do you guys know whether Linea's alloys can be fitted on to Palio MJD?

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WOW! those are some crazy quotes you have for struts. I know that we don't get the original Magnetti-Marelli CoFap suspension anymore. If that's what they are getting you, go for it, you wont regret it. But make sure its nothing else.

And the Pandit guys are a total rip-off. We got the S10 engine rebuilt from them and in less than 5000 kms, we're seeing smoke from the car with a humongous amount of oil consumption, this after spending close to 60000 for the rebuild.

I got the struts changed on my car about 5000 Kms back and it cost me 5000 for all 4 corners. There were some German OEM though. And, i got this work done in Bangalore.

I think Ravi has just shifted his garage. You can reach him via phone at: +91-9766622610 and he can guide you with directions.
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Well, thanks to the utterly disgraceful roads we have here in Bangalore, i had one of my tyres and alloy destroyed a couple of nights back.

Guess it is time to get a new set of tyres and alloys now.
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Hello Folks,

Been a while since i updated this thread so thought of doing so today.

We recently got a Figo so had been using that to get done with the running in period so the Palio was not used for about a period of 2 months. Also was using the KTM for my daily commute to work.

Started the car about a week back and was shocked! The engine was vibrating crazy and wasn't exactly idling easy. When shifting to first and releasing the clutch, the engine would want to stall unless i revved to about 1500 RPM before i let go. This was a cause for concern. Took it to TDI Racing for a check-up and they suspected the fuel pump to have packed up.
The pump was taken off and cleaned but found to be functional.

I'm planning a drive to Pune this week so took the car back from them, as is. A friend and i switched out the ignition coils also from his Palio but the issue persists. Looks like one of the injectors is not performing at full duty cycle. Maybe a clogged injector. We did verify a healthy spark from the ignition coil.

The car otherwise is perfectly OK, with the issue being present only at idle. Beyond 1500 RPM, there are no issues noticed. Filled up a full tank of fuel with fuel system flush added in but it has not helped so far.

Looks like I'm going to have to take the injectors off and get them to a Bosch center for cleaning and calibration.

The car has done 90000 KMS so far and looks like its going to get slow from here on. Have a Figo now and also picked up an S10. Going to drop this car off in Pune with my dad and bring down the S10 to be my daily drive now.

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It is difficult to diagnose without the car in front of you, but when i used to use cheap oil suplied by he service center, the same used to happen after longish periods of disuse. The car's engine would shake like anything for the first minute after starting.

Switched to magnatec and the problem did not come back.
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It is difficult to diagnose without the car in front of you, but when i used to use cheap oil suplied by he service center, the same used to happen after longish periods of disuse. The car's engine would shake like anything for the first minute after starting.

Switched to magnatec and the problem did not come back.
I've always used Shell Helix Ultra in the car since day one. Also did check the oil and it is as good as new. not even discoloured yet!

Also, the shaking is not just when it starts, it remains no matter how long the car is left idle or even when we idle during a drive at signals and stuff. Moving from standstill always needs me to throttle more than earlier just to prevent a stall.


There is definitely something wrong with the car. The CEL is also on so i know there is a malfunction. Just haven't been able to point to the exact cause yet.
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Did you check the RPM / Crank Sensor checked? Similar idling issue (with injector light on) will be there with a bad sensor. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes for the swap.

Also check if the ECU is well connected and the black rubber plug on the back is in place.

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Hello All, just thought it was time for another update on this ownership experience.

To begin with, i had earlier mentioned about the check engine light and the shaky engine at idling. We could not really figure this one out in Bangalore.

Cleaning various sensors and checking all plugs made no difference at all.
I had a trip planned to Pune so drove the car in its state to Pune. On the drive there, i found another issue with the car. At any speeds above 120 KMPH, there was a major shudder in the steering and this was being transmitted throughout the body.

I had new wheels and tyres on the car and they were also balanced so i knew that was not the cause. One thing that did worry me was the lack of wheel alignment .Thinking this to be the cause, carried on.

Went to Ravi's garage and plugged in the FIAT ECU Scan laptop. the first and only error code was that the injector in cylinder 4 was bust. We took out the injectors and tested them and found that the one from cylinder 4 did not fire at all.

We had spare injectors from the S10 so popped in that one into my car. First crank and things were back to normal. no more error codes, no shakiness and a silky smooth idle.
Incidentally, the car completed 5 years of ownership and it was due a servicing so got that done.

we dismantled the throttle body and the intake manifold and cleaned them out. also cleaned out all the sensors in the engine bay. flushed out the engine oil and put in a new batch of synthetic oil.
flushed out the coolant and filled in a new batch. During this clean-up, we found that clutch slave cylinder had developed a leak. replaced the slave cylinder. a day later, the master cylinder developed a leak and was dumping oil in the driver footwell. replaced this as well.

took the car to an alignment shop and found that there was a major negative camber on both the front wheels. we had a set of Camber adjustment bolts so put them in and got the camber corrected and alignment corrected accordingly.

after all the above work was completed, the car was as good as new. purring like a kitten at low revs and roaring like a tiger at high revs. i was in love again. on the way back to Bangalore, i was easily able to maintain speeds in excess of 160KMPH with little effort.
No wheel or steering shudder. the AC was working well also.

Currently, the car has clocked 93000 KMS.

Recently, i had been on a road trip with the KTM 200 (rode to Kanyakumari and Rameshwaram) and the bike broke down twice during this ride. I've kind of lost confidence in the bike now, so selling it.
Hence, looks like the car will see the magical big 1-0 soon.

Cheers everyone, Happy Diwali and Drive Safe.

MODS, please update the thread title to: 5 Years and 93000 KMS.
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Some pictures of the new set of wheels and tyres that i got. Also some WIP pictures of the clutch cylinder replacement.
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Do you plan to paint the spokes? The wheels are nice and shall look better IMO.
The wheels must be 98 pcd.
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