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Old 31st October 2013, 20:53   #181
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Do you plan to paint the spokes? The wheels are nice and shall look better IMO.
The wheels must be 98 pcd.
Hello HydroFuel,

i don't plan on painting the spokes. Going to replace the White stripes on the body with black ones and keep the wheels as they are.

Kind-of going from the sweet (white) to the sinister (black) look.

Yes, they are 98 PCD HRS (H333) Wheels with Continental CPC2 195/55/15 tyres.
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Yes, they are 98 PCD HRS (H333) Wheels with Continental CPC2 195/55/15 tyres.[/QUOTE]

Did you get hub rings? I had HRS aloys on my car and steering wobbled till kingdom come past 115 and hub rings fixed these.

How is the ride on 195/55-15? I found it very harsh on my MA-Z1 195/55-15 and I have changed my tyres to ZLO 195/60-15
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Did you get hub rings? I had HRS aloys on my car and steering wobbled till kingdom come past 115 and hub rings fixed these.

How is the ride on 195/55-15? I found it very harsh on my MA-Z1 195/55-15 and I have changed my tyres to ZLO 195/60-15
i did not get hub rings yet but they are on my To do list. just don't know where i can get them made from. fortunately, i don't have any steering wobble in my car.

the ride is a lot better than the earlier set of tyres because i was earlier running 195/50/15. so i cant complain. however, the rear tyres are now more prone to scraping the wheel arches.

how do you not have this occurring with 195/60? have you hammered in the wheel arches to accommodate the tyres?

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i did not get hub rings yet but they are on my To do list. just don't know where i can get them made from. fortunately, i don't have any steering wobble in my car.
There is a shop called A1 tyre center (don't remember exact name) next to Mallige Hospital near Ashoka pillar. They had the hub rings ready when I went there and they put it on. However later I came to know some folks in JC road sell them for half of what I paid.

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the ride is a lot better than the earlier set of tyres because i was earlier running 195/50/15. so i cant complain. however, the rear tyres are now more prone to scraping the wheel arches.

how do you not have this occurring with 195/60? have you hammered in the wheel arches to accommodate the tyres?
I found that very strange too. I never had a tyre scraping with the 55 profile, I recently happened to run a punto wheel as a stepney (165/80-14) which is 1% larger than 195/60-15 and still it didnt scrape. Hence went ahead with 4 new tyres.

I felt that it did scrape once, right rear tyre when I went over a speed hump way too fast. After that I had done some offroading with another passenger and a loaded boot, no scrapes yet.

Here's a pic of my rear wheel arch. I haven't done any modification on them. I'll get Coil adjuster springs in case the wheels scrape under full load.

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If you notice the part circled in the picture below, there is a small extension on the inside of the wheel arch (this is on the side that is shared with the rear door frame). here is where the tyres scrape on either side of my car.

can you check and confirm if the old palios had this extension? i don't remember seeing it on the S10 i have so maybe that's the reason it does not scrape for you.
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Any good Palio mechanics in Bangalore esp towards Whitefield side? Friend of mine has a Palio and giving him repeated problems. Thus the question.
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Any good Palio mechanics in Bangalore esp towards Whitefield side? Friend of mine has a Palio and giving him repeated problems. Thus the question.
There is Venkatesh from Gowri Automobiles in Bangalore. You will find the contact details and location in the Team-BHP directory section.
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If you notice the part circled in the picture below, there is a small extension on the inside of the wheel arch (this is on the side that is shared with the rear door frame). here is where the tyres scrape on either side of my car.

can you check and confirm if the old palios had this extension? i don't remember seeing it on the S10 i have so maybe that's the reason it does not scrape for you.
Yes I have them. Punto wheels have a negative offset (?) compared to Punto alloys i.e., wheels dont protrude outwards as much as with HRS alloys. Perhaps that is why my tyres clear the arches.

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Did engine immobiliser came with pre-stile Palio. Especially 1.6. I am thinking of getting one.
Feartures wise which one would be better? Retro Palio 1.6 or Stile 1.6, if we leave aside cost of parts, which is higher in case of Stile?
Looking for 2006 onwards, preferably not prior to that.
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Did engine immobiliser came with pre-stile Palio. Especially 1.6. I am thinking of getting one.
Feartures wise which one would be better? Retro Palio 1.6 or Stile 1.6, if we leave aside cost of parts, which is higher in case of Stile?
Looking for 2006 onwards, preferably not prior to that.
AFAIK, none of the Palios came with an engine immobiliser. Feature wise, all of them are identical again with the Stile being more expensive to maintain cosmetically as compared to the older ones. Mechanically, all models from the first to the last one should cost you the same in terms of maintenance/replacement of parts.

If you are looking to buy the Pre-Stile, but Post-2006 models, you will only find the 'Palio NV' series of cars, which IMHO arent as engaging as the earlier ones. The ECUs were re-tuned for more mileage and the additions of cat-cons started with these models if i'm not mistaken. An NV 1.6 is extremely rare to find as well. It was mostly the 1.2s that were sold in this era.
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Some pictures of the new set of wheels and tyres that i got. Also some WIP pictures of the clutch cylinder replacement.
Hey Lucifer,

What's the best tyre upgrade for a Palio 1.6? I do not intend to change the alloys from 14" to 15". I have a strong inclination towards 185/65 -14 but, somewhere, I remember having read that 185/70-14 offers a better ride. However, I'm worried about the latter scraping the wheel arches. What's your take on this??

And I have all but made up my mind to buy Conti because I just fell in love with it; but, my best buddy says that it might not run as many kilometres as a Bridgestone or an equivalent would. I do not mind if the mileage is 10 percent lesser compared to a Bridgestone, but if it is HALF of it, then it's a cause for worry. Can you shed more light on this?? Your suggestion would be highly appreciated.

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Guys

What is a C mount for the engine/gearbox. Is this something different from the engine mounts A & B.

My 2003 GTX has developed vibration on the steering, pedals, etc at certain RPM and gear. When I got it checked at the Vecto motors, the SA informed me that the C mount has to be replaced and they don't have stock of C Mounts

When I checked on 99rpm, they have the engine mount set and I am not sure if it also includes the C mount with it.

To add to the confusion, there are two different set of parts available -

http://www.99rpm.com/fiat/engine-mou...adventure.html

http://www.99rpm.com/fiat/engine-b-m...ile-petra.html

I dont want to invest on something which might not fit ultimately.

Please can someone help me clarify if this C mount can be brought outside individually and where

Thanks in advance

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Did engine immobiliser came with pre-stile Palio. Especially 1.6. I am thinking of getting one.
Feartures wise which one would be better? Retro Palio 1.6 or Stile 1.6, if we leave aside cost of parts, which is higher in case of Stile?
Looking for 2006 onwards, preferably not prior to that.
Palio Stile has engine immobilizer in it. I have the Stile base variant with the engine immobilizer so the 1.6 should definitely have it.
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Palio Stile has engine immobilizer in it. I have the Stile base variant with the engine immobilizer so the 1.6 should definitely have it.
Thats not quite correct - I had a 2007 Stile 1.6 and it didnt have an immobilizer while the cheaper 1.1 had it. Back then the dealer had no clue why - but then the Fiat badge is a better theft deterrent than any immobilizer
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Palio Stile has engine immobilizer in it. I have the Stile base variant with the engine immobilizer so the 1.6 should definitely have it.
Only the 1.1 variant came with the immobilizer. The 1.6 never had it.

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Hey Lucifer,

What's the best tyre upgrade for a Palio 1.6? I do not intend to change the alloys from 14" to 15". I have a strong inclination towards 185/65 -14 but, somewhere, I remember having read that 185/70-14 offers a better ride. However, I'm worried about the latter scraping the wheel arches. What's your take on this??

Cheers,
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If you are sticking with 14" wheels, your options are 185/60 or 195/60 given current availability. 185/60 will be the perfect upgrade for the 14" alloys. 195/60 will make the car ride a wee bit taller. Both will not scrape the wheel arches.
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