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Old 14th July 2010, 23:40   #31
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Excellent choice! The Vista QJD BS4 is a great car. I TD'd the BS3 one myself, but chose the IndigoCS TDi because everyone in the family were rooting for a 'proper' car (read Sedan with boot). What I loved about the Vista was its driveablility in city traffic. It has a much better low-end than the Indigo or the Swift DDiS, and only the Figo felt better bue to no lag.

I assume that you've driven both the BS3 and BS4 versions, can you describe the differences? Also, what was the exact OTR price you paid for the Aura ABS?
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Congratulations on your purchase.

The seat cover job looks nice. Please share pics after fitting of seat covers. Any other accessory that you have planned?
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Old 15th July 2010, 08:28   #33
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I assume that you've driven both the BS3 and BS4 versions, can you describe the differences? ...
@vivekgk: Was not able to TD the BSIII version, so can't really point out the improvement.

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Congratulations on your purchase.
The seat cover job looks nice. Please share pics after fitting of seat covers. Any other accessory that you have planned?
Thanks @TaureanBull. I am yet to take pics of the final outcome. Have not planned any other accessories as of now.

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Congratulations on the car!.... the multijet is even quiter than the swift DDiS. .Ditto for the overall driveability.
@sidindica: Thanks for your wishes sid. As per my experience with the TD of Swift Diesel, I found the swift to the little "Swifter" than Vista.

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Are you sure it isn't the wire for the seat belt warning sign indicator ? the seatbelt warning indicator switch would be in the driver seat buckle holder and the wire is at exactly that position.
@autoenthusiast: Let me check if it's plugged in now.


The Total Cost and Breakage as promised:

Dealer Quote:

EXSHOWROOM 519,841.00 519,841.00
INSURANCE 13,538.00 BY PARTY (SELF)
ROAD TAX 80,060.00 80,060.00
HANDLING CHARGES 5,000.00 5,000.00
TOTAL 604,901.00
LESS DISCOUNT (12K) +CORPORATE (5K)
ASSURED GIFT OF RS 2K.
TOTAL VALUE (Dealer) 587,901.00

Total Cost = The above value (587,901.00 ) + 5,100 (Extended Warranty) + 15,700 Rs (Insurance)
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Old 15th July 2010, 11:57   #34
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Hi,

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The unused socket under the seat is most probably the socket to connect the laptop for On-board-diagnostics. The V2 Indicas had this below the passenger seat.
This wire is not for that. You are right about the V2 indicas. The ScanguageII I have works with my Marina (limited parameters) but does not with the Manza or Nano.

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Are you sure it isn't the wire for the seat belt warning sign indicator ? the seatbelt warning indicator switch would be in the driver seat buckle holder and the wire is at exactly that position.
You might be right.

The OBD socket is in the fuse box in the Vista (somebody had posted an image long back) and definitely so in the Manza.

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TSEA -
1. Thanks for the break-up. Is insurance being calculated twice?
2. Please elaborate on vista qjd's drivability in city.
3. Did you following any specific instructions for QJD - idling at start & stop, etc?
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Old 19th July 2010, 17:45   #36
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I am back after a quick trip to Chikmagalur. Have clocked around 1,300 kms. Some points that I observed:

Regarding Car:

1. Got around 22 kms/ltr for the first stretch. Yet to calculate the overall trip fuel effeciency.

2. With four adults on board, the car was pulling nicely and climbed to speed of 100 easily.

3. As I pointed earlier, the suspension is excellent and I was not slowing down for bad roads and small speed breakers/potholes.

4. Didn't felt very comfortable doing speeds excess of 90kms/hr on winding roads (but I feel that this will be the case with most (if not all) hatchbacks).

About the route:

1. Bannerghatta to Nice Road to Madagi Road Exit: Excellent
2. Magadi Road Exit to Just before Magadi Town: Amazing (Very good route for a quick escape from Bangalore, nice drive with scenic surroundings)
3. Magadi Town to left turn at NH48 (towards Kunigal): Average (with slightly bad roads in the city, but for a kms only).
4. Before Kunigal (right from the left turn at NH48) to Channarayapatna: Slightly below average roads (road widening work being carried out at places).
5. Channarayapatna to Hassan to Chikmaglur: Above average to Great Roads (apart from city traffic).
6. Chikmaglur to Kadur (Banavara) (Via Sakkarepatna Bypass roads, single lane): Nice single lane roads (too this route to avoid the old Chikmaglur-Kadur concrete road).
7. Banavara to Arsikere to Tiptur (NH206): Above average roads to nice roads.
8. Tiptur to Nelamangala to Bangalore: Nice to Great Roads. (Expect lot of traffic at Nelamangala)

On the way!

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-resting-along.jpg
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Old 19th July 2010, 17:51   #37
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Also attaching the car seat cover pictures. The idea was to match the car's interiors, let me know what you guys think.

Front Seat

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-seat-1.jpg

Another Angle

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-font-seat-2.jpg

Steering Wheel

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-steering-wheel.jpg

Overall Color Combination

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-back-seat-color-combination.jpg

Finishing

Vista; Long Term Ownership Report (from Page 4)-finishing.jpg

I am happy with the overall work done by Shivakumar (@9448685679) and his team.
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Old 19th July 2010, 17:56   #38
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1. Thanks for the break-up. Is insurance being calculated twice?
2. Please elaborate on vista qjd's drivability in city.
3. Did you following any specific instructions for QJD - idling at start & stop, etc?
1. No, the insurance from dealer was indicative only. Actual insurance was taken from the financing company. If you are dealing with Concorde, give Satish@9986866999 a call, nice guy to deal with.

2. City driving is good. The car feels a tad bigger and is not the swiftest of the lot. But the ride is smooth and you can rely on the 3rd gear for most of the time (with occasional shifting to 2nd for a little extra help).

3. Nothing specific.
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Old 19th July 2010, 19:23   #39
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Congrats on the new purchase. The seat covers look good too . But one thing that did not fit in with your whole write-up was you were not too comfortable with Tata-Fiat and still you went for a Vista. I know you have answered this before , and extremely sorry for sounding rude but was the concern over Fiat part sourcing was a hear-say or a feedback from current Fiat Punto owners.
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Congrats on the new purchase. The seat covers look good too . But one thing that did not fit in with your whole write-up was you were not too comfortable with Tata-Fiat and still you went for a Vista. I know you have answered this before , and extremely sorry for sounding rude but was the concern over Fiat part sourcing was a hear-say or a feedback from current Fiat Punto owners.
@Vikrantj: No issues, you have a concern and I will try to answer it to the best of my knowledge.

1. I am comfortable with Tata service (owned a Indica DLG Turbo earlier). 2. I have no experience of a FIAT Car being serviced at the TATA service center. Suggest you to dig some Punto ownership threads.
3. FIAT spares should be costlier than TATA (though I have never compared the prices). This should be confirmed by a FIAT owner.
4. Initial landing cost of FIAT cars is more than the corresponding model from TATA (but FIAT is better in most of the aspects)

Considering all the above, I was inclined more towards buying a TATA product/serviced sold by TATA, instead of buying a FIAT product, Sold/Serviced by TATA.
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Congrats for new Vista. It is a good and spacious car. Bit noisier than the swift VDi and Ritz VDI. It is nice to know that you are comfortable with your TASS. Keep on posting the updates time to time.
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Old 19th July 2010, 23:36   #42
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Congrats on the Vista. Having owned a Indica Turbo for 4.5 years and after clocking 88,512 kms, I can tell you that the car will offer you phenomenal bang for the buck. On the infamous TASS, one thing that worked for me - I built a decent rapport with some of the service guys at Concorde and that greatly helped. My TASS experience was pretty close to the Hyundai After Sales Service (I have a Santro AT too).

Tata really needs to separate the servicing for white boards and yellow boards, especially with the Fiats in their kitty now and the Vista and the Manza getting more popular.

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TSEA - Pics have come out very good. Infact pic1 is wallpaper-worthy!
Zigwheels shootout of 6 diesel hatches placed Vista at 3rd place. Personally, i would have put it one up at the 2nd place.

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Old 20th July 2010, 15:02   #44
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Hi TSEA,

As a Fiat Linea owner , please see my comments inline.


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@Vikrantj: No issues, you have a concern and I will try to answer it to the best of my knowledge.

1. I am comfortable with Tata service (owned a Indica DLG Turbo earlier).

Same Tata's will now service Fiat. So same comfort level.

2. I have no experience of a FIAT Car being serviced at the TATA service center. Suggest you to dig some Punto ownership threads.

Personally no issues with service faced till now.

3. FIAT spares should be costlier than TATA (though I have never compared the prices). This should be confirmed by a FIAT owner.

Vista is made in the same assembly line as Punto in Ranjangaon near Pune so the cost of spares similar.

4. Initial landing cost of FIAT cars is more than the corresponding model from TATA (but FIAT is better in most of the aspects)

Agreed

Considering all the above, I was inclined more towards buying a TATA product/serviced sold by TATA, instead of buying a FIAT product, Sold/Serviced by TATA.
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Hi TSEA,

As a Fiat Linea owner , please see my comments inline.
In that case it all boils down to which car you like and how much you want to shed. I would like to have a Punto with the space of a Vista .
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