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Old 11th April 2012, 19:18   #451
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800+ NM? The specs mention the maximum torque to be 343NM!
800+NM is the peak torque in 4LL mode, not in 4H or 4HL mode. I made a post in the Fortuner Test Drive & Review thread where I calculated the peak torque using the low range transfer case ratio of 1:2.566

Multiply 2.566 with 343, you get 880NM of peak torque in 4LL mode
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Default Vehicle gone for 30000 km servicing: ASC seems to have little clue about noise!

So I dropped the vehicle yesterday for 30K servicing. Got into an argument with a service advisor who wasn't sure about propeller shaft greasing. The junior advisers have no clue about many things.

Anyway, as I have mentioned earlier, there is a 'kaat' sound coming when I brake while reversing. No sound when going forward. So the Nandi Toyota guys have spend 1.5 days without being able to diagnose the problem. They say that it is coming from the front right wheel, but I am not sure about that. They opened everything up, and still the noise remains. I told them to check the rear brake assembly, which they say they have done.

I need the vehicle back by late afternoon today, whatever happens. Am really upset with Nandi Toyota ASC diagnosis capabilities.

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Anyway, as I have mentioned earlier, there is a 'kaat' sound coming when I brake while reversing. No sound when going forward.
It could also be bush/mounting somewhere in the suspension which gets a jerk while braking in reverse and tends to re align itself. Have they checked all the underbody bolts and bushes?

Also, since they say it is coming from the front right, it could very well be a suspension component there.
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They checked everything, but was unable to diagnose properly. I have taken the vehicle back since rest everything is alright, and I am driving to Goa for official work right now (in the next 30 min).

They asked me to bring the vehicle back for a couple of days so that they can check more thoroughly. I told them that I will, but they should get Toyota technical people involved asap instead of wasting more time.

30K service cost was 7.7K including wheel alignment and all standard replacements and checks. Dickey shock was replaced under warranty - it was making some noise.
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They checked everything, but was unable to diagnose properly. I have taken the vehicle back since rest everything is alright, and I am driving to Goa for official work right now (in the next 30 min).
Hmmm...instinct tells me that it is either a body or a suspension part and not a brake part, anway, if they are not able to pin point the reason, you could very well try a different ASC altogether.

When in Goa, if you have the time, you could try an ASC there as well. Such faults are diagnosed more easily at ASCs which attend to vehicles doing bad roads and the Goa ASC should have many of them.

OT: Get me a bottle of cashew fenny on your way back.
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They checked everything, but was unable to diagnose properly. I have taken the vehicle back since rest everything is alright, and I am driving to Goa for official work right now (in the next 30 min).

They asked me to bring the vehicle back for a couple of days so that they can check more thoroughly. I told them that I will, but they should get Toyota technical people involved asap instead of wasting more time.

30K service cost was 7.7K including wheel alignment and all standard replacements and checks. Dickey shock was replaced under warranty - it was making some noise.
I also hear the same "KHAT" noise when i reverse the vehicle. I did'nt bother to take it to ASC since i was fedup of wasting my whole days for such issues and coming back without any solution .

In all probability this noise is of front brake calipers. This comes only when you apply the breaks for first time which in both our cases is when we reverse the vehicles from our parking lot.
This should also come when you drive the vehicle for the first time in forward direction after a gap of few hours. Crawl the vehicle and apply the brakes the noise will come. I think some amount of play comes between the pads and calipers which adjusts during first time breaking.

My Honda city also has the same behaviour and the SA gave me the above reason.

You can discuss this angle with ASC and let us know if there is any solution. Till then enjoy the ride to Goa .

Drive safe.

PS: mind sharing the breakup of 7.7K for the 30K service. My 25K service will be due in June end and is covered under the smile package i took. I might renew the smile package after that if its 7.7k for the 30K service.
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Thanks for the inputs Columbus.

I have noticed that the sound comes whenever I reverse - even if I am rolling down backwards and I press the brakes. Another irritating this is a minor squeak from the drivers seat when the vehiclke gets thrown over rough roads or my weight shifts during a sharp turn. Not surprising given that roads it has traversed...still, need to get it fixed.

Don't remember the break-up, but the key cost line items were the engine oil/filter, AC/air filters etc. replacements + wheel balancing. 30K is a major service where a number of things get replaced - see the list in the previous page of this thread (image captured from a Toyota calendar - link here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2733497)

Got back after a 1400km+ round trip to Goa. Took the Yellapur - Karwar route while going, and Honnevar - Sagar - Shimoga - Bhadra route while coming back. Drove in the evening while coming back from Bhadra - covered Bhadra - Sarjapur Road/Bangalore in less than 5 hours, on dark roads and during rain. The Fortuner is just great for night driving. Later I was driving my SX4 in the night, and realized that the difference is stark.

While in Bhadra took the Fortuner offroading just outside the sanctuary gate. It covered broken ground, slush and water without any sweat. Got some nice bird pictures too for my trouble! Will share on the other thread.

While in Goa 6 of my colleagues piled onto my vehicle for transfer from one hotel to the other. It pulls well even with 7 people on board.

Google Maps led me to some less than ideal roads and tracks when I was doing the Goa - Bangalore stretch through Sagar. One was just a dirt track - supposedly a short cut. One needs to be careful of blindly trusting these maps. Better to plot one's own course using current location/GPS and Google maps - without relying too much on the track suggested.
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Got my first bang at the back :-(

A portion of the bumper (6-7 inches) is caved in. I tried pressing it down but it won't fully go in.

Will get it sorted out when I visit the ASC. Wonder how much a Fortuner bumper costs? If too much, then I will have to live with a slight disfigurement.
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Got my first bang at the back :-(

A portion of the bumper (6-7 inches) is caved in. I tried pressing it down but it won't fully go in.

Will get it sorted out when I visit the ASC. Wonder how much a Fortuner bumper costs? If too much, then I will have to live with a slight disfigurement.
Please post the picture, so that we can judge the damage ?
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Please post the picture, so that we can judge the damage ?
Will do. Makes me sad to look at it though :-(

Meanwhile, here is an article about Toyota's dominance at Dakar T2 category for Toyota SUV lovers:
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Regarding the "nat"Khat sound that is bothering you. Do check if the spare wheel is secured and tightened properly also.

Really sorry to hear about the injury to our much adored Bison.

The rear bumper (including Painting) costs about Rs. 22,000/- in Delhi. Out of this the Insurance would pay 50% less mandatory Rs.1000/- as claim charges. If the NCB is below Rs.10,000/- it makes sense to take a claim rather than footing the full 22,000/- (approx) yourself.

I'd say bite the bullet and have it changed. Every time you look at the Bison your eyes would be drawn to the wound at the back. A Steel Bar at the back would save from such situations in the future also. They cost much less and bear the brunt in any rear shunt.

My commiserations again. Wishing Bison a speedy recovery.

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Got my first bang at the back :-(

A portion of the bumper (6-7 inches) is caved in. I tried pressing it down but it won't fully go in.

Will get it sorted out when I visit the ASC. Wonder how much a Fortuner bumper costs? If too much, then I will have to live with a slight disfigurement.
Hi, Sorry to hear about this...
What I would suggest is that search for a plastic bumper specialist ( there are plenty in Mumbai and Pune) who gently apply heat with cloth poultices and bring bent, disfigured bumpers and parts back to shape (if there are no skin tears) and then touch them up with matching paint if required. Had a friend who did this with his Scorpio at a micro fraction of the cost of a replacement surgery and youjust can't make out the 'post' treatment patch.
I am sure you'll find enough of these specialists if you ask around on JC Road in Bangalore.
Do post some snaps. Well we'll have a look and you can close your eyes !

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My commiserations again. Wishing Bison a speedy recovery.
Hey You Mr Commiseranioner,
Long time no hear ! All well with the Fortuner I trust. Tell me what have you been doing about the chips on the surface of the skin of your Fortuner ? I discovered a couple of them after my recent southern run - was wondering whether I should dot touch it up with my Dupli-Color paint pens...

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Hi Nilanjan,
Sad to hear about the dent on the rear bumper of the Bison.

I totally agree with Guderian about the dent removal & repair facility available in the Metros. The only thing is you need to find that agency.

To give you a heads up on how it is done, a few of Pune Chapter guys have been using the services of one particular specialist.
Good friend and T-BHPian, swanand.inamdar got a nasty dent removed on his Skoda Laura's Rear Bumper, a few months back.
Check it out at this thread (Paintless Dent repair).

There are a lot of Bangalore members on that thread, who are using these services. Maybe, you will find what you need over there.
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Hi, Sorry to hear about this...
What I would suggest is that search for a plastic bumper specialist
I am sure you'll find enough of these specialists if you ask around on JC Road in Bangalore.
Do post some snaps. Well we'll have a look and you can close your eyes !



Hey You Mr Commiseranioner,
Long time no hear ! All well with the Fortuner I trust. Tell me what have you been doing about the chips on the surface of the skin of your Fortuner ? I discovered a couple of them after my recent southern run - was wondering whether I should dot touch it up with my Dupli-Color paint pens...

The Plastic Repair Specialist is a good idea as it will be done at the fraction of the cost of replacement.

Hi HG!! All is well with the Fort and it has trotted past the 55,000 kms mark. The review is up in the Long Term section.

As far as the paint chips go i would suggest taking it to the body shop and having them fill in the paint with a pointed brush. That's what i have done on the chips on the bonnet and it seems to have worked.

If the paint in the Paint Pens is thick enough that you can give it a shot at home yourself.

That said i will check the state of the stone chips touch-up when i go home today and report back.
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That said i will check the state of the stone chips touch-up when i go home today and report back.
Hi Manuuj,
Thanks. That would be nice.

Boy you are trotting up some impressive numbers. Shall go across to your thread. Had plum forgotten that you are now admitted in the geriatric ward !
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