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Old 17th April 2014, 19:12   #2026
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Hi Guderian,

Well, its taken me an eternity to get on to the forum and am still finding my way around here. Yours and Manuuj's thread have been true revelations and have spurred me on to zero in on booking a white MT 4x4 TFort for myself.

I must also compliment you on your writing skills, you sure have a flair for it, though I am no judge. All this has certainly won you and Admiral, a fan in me. While I await delivery of my HULK(dunno if the name is taken), I am reading up on whatever I can to equip myself to handle him well. Let's catch up someday and share our stories while we are at it.

Cheers.
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Congratulations crossfixio, when do you take delivery? There were rumours that there has been some changes made to the interiors of the Fortuner. Can you confirm this?
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Congratulations crossfixio, when do you take delivery? There were rumours that there has been some changes made to the interiors of the Fortuner. Can you confirm this?
Thank You SumitB, I should lay my hands on it sometime mid may. However, the Toyota Kirloskar Lock Out is keeping me on tenter hooks.

Do elaborate on the supposed changes. If you are referring to the 2014 face lift, I believe it is yet to hit the Indian shores. I shall check with the dealership nevertheless.
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I am not too sure what the changes are but I believe the interiors are black now.
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I am not too sure what the changes are but I believe the interiors are black now.
Actually the deep brown portion (upper side of the Instrument Panel, Console Box, Parking Brake Lever etc) has been changed to black.
Also the silver part of the steering wheel sports a different silver hue. (appears to be brighter than the earlier models)
The same is available in the official website: http://www.toyotabharat.com/cars/new...r/gallery.aspx

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I am not too sure what the changes are but I believe the interiors are black now.

Yup they are, here are a few pics of my 4x4 which is end March manufactured. While booking the vehicle I still was not sure regarding the interior of the car, but have to say after a couple of weeks behind the wheel I actually think this combo looks nice.Name:  ImageUploadedByTeamBHP1397928240.300394.jpg
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Old 19th April 2014, 23:31   #2032
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Folks would remember that Admiral had gone in for the brake booster upgrade/retrofit in May 2013 - page 125 of the thread. All is well with the brakes by and large (touchwood !).

Here's a link of a report from karan561's thread (a fellow Fortuner owner) which describes what could go wrong during such retrofits. Placing it here for the benefit of all Fortuner owners.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...000-kms-5.html

Thank you karan561.
Hello Admiral, while casually reading through your notes, clicked the brake booster pic from my dec2013 4x4mt model.
Apparently it is of different type than shown here what has been received as booster upgrade. Anything amiss ?
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due regards, RJ
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Hello Admiral, while casually reading through your notes, clicked the brake booster pic from my dec2013 4x4mt model.
Apparently it is of different type than shown here what has been received as booster upgrade. Anything amiss ?
With due respect to General Guderian, I am taking the liberty to answer your question.
First of all congratulations @roadjourno for the new buy.
From January 2012, the brake booster of the 4x4 MT variant is different from its predecessors (like Admiral). The Brake Control System of the Admiral is ABS, whereas post 2012, for the above variant it is VSC (Vehicle Stability Control). The VSC system has a different brake booster, a different Brake Actuator, different set of brake tubes and a different proportioning valve for the rear wheels. Due to this the picture is different. So nothing amiss at all.
However for the 4x2 MT and 4x2 AT variants, the brake control system is still ABS.
The VSC is a superior system with the added feature of yaw rate control which gives better grip during sudden maneuvering on wet / slippery roads.

Please see this video for a better understanding.



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P.S.: Please note that the coxswain of Fleet Admiral Togo Heihachiro is General Heinz Wilhelm Guderian. I sincerely advise you to seek his pardon for this unholy mixup
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Old 21st April 2014, 09:48   #2034
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Of This & That...!

Life has been rather peaceful for Admiral with plenty of mundane coastal duties and the usual weekend routine and so life chugs along gently.

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So nothing much to report but a few pointers from the weekend capers.

A few weeks ago, as Admiral had crossed the 50K KMs mark, I thought of measuring the suspension level and wheel arch gaps. Going by experience with my earlier vehicle (also a ladder frame - Scorpio) I was expecting a list towards one side. Typically happens on the driver's side. But for some strange reason, the Scorpio had by same age a list towards the passenger side. I had to then get the leaf springs recambered and the front suspension etc done up for regaining its stance.
I measured Admiral all around - all four wheels.
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I was expecting a minor list of at least a few MMs. But surprise of surprise. Not the least of anything on the old chap. All four sides had the same measurments. Did it twice and was quite relieved. And did it again.
Must hand it to the robust suspension system.

Couple of weeks ago tried the new single piece jack rod to lower the stepney to top up the air in it. Rather easier and safer to use and handle it though it requires quite a bit more of room to use as compared to the three piece rod.
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I always top up the stepney 2PSI extra than the running tyres.
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And up a daisy !
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And sometime ago noticed that few of the plastic clips/fastners of the old boy were begining to pop out/off. These were the ones holding up the front wheel well flaps and the rear wheel arch liner.
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The front wheel flap fasteners falling off either due to old age or slipping out when the ASC chaps inadvertently dropped oil on it during oil/oil filter changes. And the rear wheel well liner fastners dropping out due to the occasional bumps on the fender while parking etc.
Anyway checked with the ASC and the fasteners were frightfully expensive - so toddled off to the nearby FNAC - Friendly Neighbourhood Accessories Chap - and got me self quite a few clips and stuff and it cost me almost next to nothing.
And so out came the magic box:
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And the fastners:
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The size and kind suitable for the front wheel side engine flaps:
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The size and kind suitable for the rear wheel well liners:
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The substitute on the rear wheel well liner:
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That day also saw another tight fit nearby (wildlife (or almost) inspiration - Nilanjan's and BCG-GD1418's snaps):
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And so life chugs along...
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Wooo ! And this place has been busy !

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Yours and Manuuj's thread have been true revelations and have spurred me on to zero in on booking a white MT 4x4 TFort for myself...
...All this has certainly won you and Admiral, a fan in me.
Hi crossifixio,
Thank you very much for the kind words of appreciation and I am glad that you liked our threads and that they were of great help to you.

Congratulations on the acquisition ! Look forward to your thread once you get the vehicle. Yeah, the waiting period is quite a killer.

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...when do you take delivery?
And what about you Sumit ? What about your Fortuner booking and taking control of the wheel ? Any developments ?

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Yup they are, here are a few pics of my 4x4 which is end March manufactured.
Thank you ishlinea7260 - looks very nice indeed.

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Hello Admiral, while casually reading through your notes, clicked the brake booster pic from my dec2013 4x4mt model.
Apparently it is of different type than shown here what has been received as booster upgrade. Anything amiss ?
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1. So nothing amiss at all.
2. P.S.: Please note that the coxswain of Fleet Admiral Togo Heihachiro is General Heinz Wilhelm Guderian. I sincerely advise you to seek his pardon for this unholy mixup
Hi RJ,
samish has responded to your Q fabulously.
But then I had a relook at the snaps put up by you and analysed it in detail. Did a technical evaluation besides a imagery analysis/spectrophotometry etc and came to a conclusion that something was amiss all right.

The conclusion after all that hard labour was that - that brake booster desperately needs a wash.
And I suspect so does the engine bay.

Hi samish,
On point no. 2 - Ha ha !

Tally ho chaps !

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And what about you Sumit ? What about your Fortuner booking and taking control of the wheel ? Any developments ?
It will happen Sir. As I had mentioned elsewhere, will take delivery of two beasts together. However, as of today, the bookings have not been made. Will keep you informed.
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It will happen Sir. As I had mentioned elsewhere, will take delivery of two beasts together. However, as of today, the bookings have not been made. Will keep you informed.
Wow...two Fortuners at a time ? That's quite something. Not quite unlike the twin Safaris you had eh ?
Do let us know of the Toyota experience - especially when you go to them with an order for two and later on whether there is a difference between two Fortuners on the behavioural front !
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Hello HG,

You inspired to me write a picture laded ownership Report. Well I did attempt it and here it is now for your valuable comments.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ises-keep.html (Toyota Fortuner 4X2 MT: Miles to go before, but I have promises to keep)

thanks a lot.
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Well I did attempt it and here it is now for your valuable comments.
Hi Wanderers,
Been a little out of circulation around these parts...
What with the new FY begining and the attendant issues...ahh the joys and sorrows of worklife !
Thank you for the heads up. Will cetainly amble across to your thread and sign the visitors book.
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Dear Guderian,
I regularly read your updates and been an inspiration in maintaining my car as per your write-ups.

I have a query for you. Have you ever changed the OEM tyres?

I also drive a 2011 Fortuner and yesterday when I was washing my car I noticed that the outer is wearing out more than the inner especially the front tyres. Mine has done 42,000 KM's and there is enough thread inner and middle part. Usually the balancing and alignment is done at every 5,000 Km's. The recent one was done at 40,000. Is the outer wearing because of the alignment issues?

Thanks in advance for your help as always.
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I have a query for you. Have you ever changed the OEM tyres?

I also drive a 2011 Fortuner and yesterday when I was washing my car I noticed that the outer is wearing out more than the inner especially the front tyres. Mine has done 42,000 KM's and there is enough thread inner and middle part. Usually the balancing and alignment is done at every 5,000 Km's. The recent one was done at 40,000. Is the outer wearing because of the alignment issues?
Hi krisgnair,
1. No, I haven't changed the OE tyres yet.
2. If the outer area is wearing out - then it could be due to a cambering issue. Too much of a positive camber I suspect. Check the figures out and see whether it is in range.
I trust you are rotating the tyres every 10K KMs.
What you can now do is to go to your tyre fellow and ask him to reverse the tyres: inside-out - meaning the tyre is flipped around on the wheel so that the worn out outer is now on the inside and run it for some more time and get an even wear.Do it for/on all the tyres/wheels.

Incidentally I desist from carrying out alignment every now and then. I do it only when I fell it is required and my experience with Admiral shows me that it is rarely required really. In 55K KMs I guess I have done it around 3 times - all for just peace of mind - the initial readings at all alignment sessions were in range and there was really no need to have got it aligned actually except once.
However if you insist on periodically getting it done, get it done at intervals of 10K KMs as per me. Most of the times I find the alignment-wallahs ruining the settings than aligning it properly.

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