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Old 18th January 2006, 10:41   #16
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I think SS is right. Your offset for the alloys may be wrong. You say Engineer adjusted the offset, how can you change the offset of a given rim?
The offset of Swift with the stock wheels is 5.5J for the 14" RIM. I have a 15" which required the offset of the Shocks to be changed to 6.5J or 7J from the 5.5J. So offset changes are done to the shocks and not the rim..
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The offset of Swift with the stock wheels is 5.5J for the 14" RIM. I have a 15" which required the offset of the Shocks to be changed to 6.5J or 7J from the 5.5J. So offset changes are done to the shocks and not the rim..
5.5J is the rim width, not offset. For example, the Baleno rim offset should be between 35-40. Look at this document to understand offset.
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if u read this months OD ,u will see that their long term swift also has tires of teh same size as yours and they dont have any problems ...i think the problem is in your rims which may be a bit wide than required ...have pmed u also ...so better check that
My car runs fine no problems at all when there are upto 3 people in the car even when 5 are there, only when the road conditions are bad when it gets bumpy when the tyre touches the wheel arches.
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Hey ANARCHIST, one thing u could do is put Spacers... height spacers can be put to ur car and that will increase the height from the back, and u can get it as much as u want..say around 1/2 inch or 3/4th or 1 inch.
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My car runs fine no problems at all when there are upto 3 people in the car even when 5 are there, only when the road conditions are bad when it gets bumpy when the tyre touches the wheel arches.

Hey Guys,

I dont know why all of you seemed to have overlooked the profile of his tyres. The correct profile should be 205/50/15 and not "60". 99% the problem should go away. I have seen cars fitted with 225/50/16 which do not cause any problem with 5 people in Mumbai in fact one of my friends own one with the above size and i splanning to upgrade to 225/45/17 very soon.

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I dont know why all of you seemed to have overlooked the profile of his tyres. The correct profile should be 205/50/15 and not "60". 99% the problem should go away.
That's because we are not convinced that the tyre size is the cause. He hasn't told us what is his stock. But let us look at both cases.

After switching to 205/60R15
Trim___Stock______Speedo Error______Change in Height
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Vxi__165/80R14____1.2% slow__________+3.7mm
Zxi__185/70R14____2% slow____________+6.2mm

Can we really assume 3.7mm or 6.2mm increase is causing the tyres to touch the wheel arches? That's too small a difference.

If he switches to 205/50R15
Trim___Stock______Speedo Error______Change in Height
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Vxi__165/80R14____5.4% faster_________-16.8mm
Zxi__185/70R14____4.7% faster_________-14.3mm

Also the sidewall will reduce by nearly 3cms, which will kill the ride comfort. Look at the reduction in height and GC. He is better off with his current tyres. I am still suspecting the alloys.
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Hi,

Ask any good tyre shop and he will tell you that the recommended upsize from 14" to 15" is 205/50/15. Have you ever seen a Honda City, Lancer, Accent, Palio run with 205/60/15. They all run on "50" profile if the width is to be 205. If they use 195 then 60 is OK.

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Have you ever seen a Honda City, Lancer, Accent, Palio run with 205/60/15. They all run on "50" profile if the width is to be 205. If they use 195 then 60 is OK.Viper
I know what you are saying, even my Baleno is on 195/60R14 and the best upgrade is 205/50R15. However, you have to look at the stock setup and make sure one doesn't deviate too much from the stock tyre diameter. Since Swift is a new kid on block whose stock tyres are different, we don't know what is the best upgrade. Therefore we have to look at the calculations.

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Ask any good tyre shop and he will tell you that the recommended upsize from 14" to 15" is 205/50/15.
In Bangalore most tyre shop guys are ignorant about right upgrades or alloys specs. The go by popularity. I wouldn't take their advice seriously, especially about new cars.

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Since Swift is a new kid on block whose stock tyres are different, we don't know what is the best upgrade. Therefore we have to look at the calculations.
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For optimum ride, grip, style 195/60 15, for practical bling 205/50 16 only it will knock you fillings out, if you want pure style with glued in dentures 225/35 16
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For optimum ride, grip, style 195/60 15, for practical bling 205/50 16 only it will knock you fillings out, if you want pure style with glued in dentures 225/35 16
The first two pass the calculations brilliantly, but the last one is scary.
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[SIZE=2]Swift recently arrived. Done about 300 kms till now. Whenever speed of around 60 kmh is reached there is a noise (like a whistle) from the rear. Occurs only during accelaration and when I lift the foot of the pedal there is no noise. Is this common for all Swift's or os there something to be checked for?THanks in advance.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Swift recently arrived. Done about 300 kms till now. Whenever speed of around 60 kmh is reached there is a noise (like a whistle) from the rear. Occurs only during accelaration and when I lift the foot of the pedal there is no noise. Is this common for all Swift's or os there something to be checked for?THanks in advance.[/SIZE]
I am getting the same at 80km/h, I think it has disappeared, let me check and confirm tomm
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[SIZE=2]Swift recently arrived. Done about 300 kms till now. Whenever speed of around 60 kmh is reached there is a noise (like a whistle) from the rear. Occurs only during accelaration and when I lift the foot of the pedal there is no noise. Is this common for all Swift's or os there something to be checked for?THanks in advance.[/SIZE]
Are you sure it was from the rear? I faced similar problem (engine noise & will go off when I remove the foot from the acceleration pedal) that was due to adultered petrol. Once I switched off to Essar, I came out of that
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Are you sure it was from the rear? I faced similar problem (engine noise & will go off when I remove the foot from the acceleration pedal) that was due to adultered petrol. Once I switched off to Essar, I came out of that
I think it is from the rear. The issue is that I fill up only from Shell and am pretty sure that the petrol there is unadulterated.
Is this something which happens in the initial few days of the Swift?? The noise seems to grow by the day.
Also, am concerned about the rattling noises which are increasing by the day. Alas
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Also, am concerned about the rattling noises which are increasing by the day. Alas
I too faced this problem, for that matter also the 2 of my friends who own SWIFT. Repeatedly nagged the dealer & now got it fixed. I tried in all sort of roads and it completely disappeared. It's a great feeling to drive without those rattling noises. Even my friends cars also fixed (same dealer ofcourse).

Take it to the showroom & take the service manager for a ride (in your car ). Explain him the problems & leave it to get it fixed. It takes max of 1/2 hour. After they claim they had fixed it, once again go for a ride & if problem persists, ask them to fix it again. Make sure yout ake the test drive in bumpy roads as these dealer showroom/workshop are located in main place & the roads are generally good there
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