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agent4ferrari · 2nd June 2007, 16:46

I am a car enthusiast but I am confused which car to buy. I live by the sea and hence i need a car that does not fall prey to the saltish breeze and then rust. Also i need very good ground clearence as I love to explore new outdoor locations. I need amazing acceleration, handling and braking ability. I cannot compromise on active and passive safety features. Comfort & space is also a requirement for two passengers. I have heard GM cars are made from different steel i.e. first grade steel compared to all other manufacturers who use recycles steel, hence I have noticed their cars dont rust as quickly at marutis or hondas in my building. That way even skodas & fiats last long. Seems mostly european cars are the longest lasting. Fuel efficiency is also important, but can be ofset by installing cng. Id centerd on the BMW X3, but wanted to know is there any cheaper option I have? Budget is not a major question as the bottom line is what is the cheapest car available that will satisfy these requirements. And yes it should have Automatic transmission wiht ABS,EBD,TC,SLIPP DIFFERENTIAL,AIRBAGS, 4WD,etc. Would love the pajero but it is made from recycled steel again. And yes i need it to be as compact as possible for urban usage too. Something that can live throught he mumbai floods too yet perform well in a race, while jumping over the road divider.

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-GS- · 18th July 2007, 23:15

Marketing Head Ferrari oops I mean agent4ferrari, why don't u consider Porsche Cayenne. Since fuel efficiency is also one of your concerns, you can try installing CNG on it, as u already mentioned. I am sorry I couldn't think of a cheaper alternative to BMW X3.

karlosdeville · 18th July 2007, 23:24

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Originally Posted by agent4ferrari

Fuel efficiency is also important, but can be ofset by installing cng. Id centerd on the BMW X3, but wanted to know is there any cheaper option I have? Budget is not a major question as the bottom line is what is the cheapest car available that will satisfy these requirements.

Im afraid this is a very difficult quandry you have your self in. Help me understand you better. You want an X3, but you want to fit a CNG kit in it to save costs. Budget is not an issue, but you want the cheapest car avaialble. Sorry, im lost. And amused to be perfectly honest.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 18th July 2007, 23:31

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Originally Posted by agent4ferrari

I am a car enthusiast but I am confused which car to buy. I live by the sea and hence i need a car that does not fall prey to the saltish breeze and then rust. Also i need very good ground clearence as I love to explore new outdoor locations. I need amazing acceleration, handling and braking ability. I cannot compromise on active and passive safety features. Comfort & space is also a requirement for two passengers. I have heard GM cars are made from different steel i.e. first grade steel compared to all other manufacturers who use recycles steel, hence I have noticed their cars dont rust as quickly at marutis or hondas in my building. That way even skodas & fiats last long. Seems mostly european cars are the longest lasting. Fuel efficiency is also important, but can be ofset by installing cng. Id centerd on the BMW X3, but wanted to know is there any cheaper option I have? Budget is not a major question as the bottom line is what is the cheapest car available that will satisfy these requirements. And yes it should have Automatic transmission wiht ABS,EBD,TC,SLIPP DIFFERENTIAL,AIRBAGS, 4WD,etc. Would love the pajero but it is made from recycled steel again. And yes i need it to be as compact as possible for urban usage too. Something that can live throught he mumbai floods too yet perform well in a race, while jumping over the road divider.

Thats a lot to ask from a car, and from us. Reading such a whole para at a strecth is hard.

i dont have first hand experience with such high end cars.
For all those willing to help him. The requirements have been given in bold.

EDIT: will point out the requirements.
1. a car that does not fall prey to the saltish breeze and then rust.
2. very good ground clearence
3. amazing acceleration, handling and braking ability
4. passive safety features.
5. Comfort & space
6. Fuel efficiency is also important, but can be ofset by installing cng.
7. Budget is not a major question
8. Automatic transmission wiht ABS,EBD,TC,SLIPP DIFFERENTIAL,AIRBAGS, 4WD

BMW X3 is first choice, but he is willing to take a cheaper option if all the requirements are satisfied.

karty_83 · 18th July 2007, 23:33

In my brief stint in the forum so far, thought i was the most baffled guy in finalising my car. Glad to find one who has just bettered it

tsk1979 · 19th July 2007, 00:13

You can go in for a Fiat Palio adventure.
Its built to last and will give you 10kmpl in city.
You can also fit in a LPG kit in it.
I am not sure about the price, but I am reasonably sure its cheaper than the X3 by quite some price.
If 10kmpl is too less the other option for you is a Indigo Marina diesel which can give you 15kmpl.

mohit · 19th July 2007, 00:57

A Hyundai Tucson? Other than the Auto tranny, should fulfill all requirements.

Zappo · 19th July 2007, 01:06

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

You can go in for a Fiat Palio adventure.
Its built to last and will give you 10kmpl in city.
You can also fit in a LPG kit in it.
I am not sure about the price, but I am reasonably sure its cheaper than the X3 by quite some price.
If 10kmpl is too less the other option for you is a Indigo Marina diesel which can give you 15kmpl.

But then I think he also wants a small compact 4-wheel drive that can also jump dividers and win a race (F1?). Will these cars satisfy his requirements?

bottle · 19th July 2007, 01:14

how about fusion ? does it still have the abs pack ? dunno about auto though

rocksterraghu · 19th July 2007, 01:16

How about the Mercedes M-Class? Power, safety and build quality, ground clearance all fine?

roms · 19th July 2007, 01:23

Buy a Hummer H2 dude. Its "pretty" tough. It would return around 1 km/l, which mind you is quite reasonable .But if thats not good enough for you, you could consider going the CNG way.

esteem_lover · 19th July 2007, 02:43

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Originally Posted by bottle

how about fusion ? does it still have the abs pack ? dunno about auto though

read this again bottle

Quote:

And yes it should have Automatic transmission wiht ABS,EBD,TC,SLIPP DIFFERENTIAL,AIRBAGS, 4WD,etc. Would love the pajero but it is made from recycled steel again

have you got one for that ?

1100D · 19th July 2007, 02:54

He is going BMW X3 and we are recommending Fiat Adventure!! No way, Pajero is made from recycled steel you say, is it the same with Montero. Well how about a Audi Q7?

Rice_tuner · 19th July 2007, 21:54

hey...theres this new car thats gnna be launched by a relatively new manufacturer...
its got a huge HUGE cabin space with 3 bathrooms (1 bedroom is optional tho) as well as 21 feet of ground clearance (which will make "jumping" over speedbreakers,cars,buses,short building easy) has a 3957 L engine pushing out bout 2852 horsepower... pretty decent power to weight (the wt mind u wud be pretty close to 15.2 tons tho)
and returns 17 kmpl!!!! (bout 23 w/o the bedroom option)
and yea! 5.24 L on road.

i'm sorry... but...u have waay too much to ask of from ONE car.
cheers tho..happy hunting...

reignofchaos · 19th July 2007, 21:58

Beemer X3 on CNG

. I havent heard anything funnier than that for ages

2nd June 2007, 16:46	#1 (permalink)
agent4ferrari BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 135	Which car? I am a car enthusiast but I am confused which car to buy. I live by the sea and hence i need a car that does not fall prey to the saltish breeze and then rust. Also i need very good ground clearence as I love to explore new outdoor locations. I need amazing acceleration, handling and braking ability. I cannot compromise on active and passive safety features. Comfort & space is also a requirement for two passengers. I have heard GM cars are made from different steel i.e. first grade steel compared to all other manufacturers who use recycles steel, hence I have noticed their cars dont rust as quickly at marutis or hondas in my building. That way even skodas & fiats last long. Seems mostly european cars are the longest lasting. Fuel efficiency is also important, but can be ofset by installing cng. Id centerd on the BMW X3, but wanted to know is there any cheaper option I have? Budget is not a major question as the bottom line is what is the cheapest car available that will satisfy these requirements. And yes it should have Automatic transmission wiht ABS,EBD,TC,SLIPP DIFFERENTIAL,AIRBAGS, 4WD,etc. Would love the pajero but it is made from recycled steel again. And yes i need it to be as compact as possible for urban usage too. Something that can live throught he mumbai floods too yet perform well in a race, while jumping over the road divider. Mod's Note: As informed earlier via PM, please format your posts to make them more readable. Huge paragraphs with lines after lines only make things difficult for others to read and understand your posts. Give proper breaks between sentences to make posts legible. Last edited by Zappo : 19th July 2007 at 00:58.

18th July 2007, 23:15	#2 (permalink)
-GS- BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 352	Marketing Head Ferrari oops I mean agent4ferrari, why don't u consider Porsche Cayenne. Since fuel efficiency is also one of your concerns, you can try installing CNG on it, as u already mentioned. I am sorry I couldn't think of a cheaper alternative to BMW X3. __________________ Ability is nothing without opportunity - Napoleon Bonaparte

19th July 2007, 00:13	#6 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Noida, New Delhi Posts: 8,041 View My Garage	You can go in for a Fiat Palio adventure. Its built to last and will give you 10kmpl in city. You can also fit in a LPG kit in it. I am not sure about the price, but I am reasonably sure its cheaper than the X3 by quite some price. If 10kmpl is too less the other option for you is a Indigo Marina diesel which can give you 15kmpl. __________________ .--- ..- ... - - .-- --- -- --- .-. . -.. .- -.-- ... - --- --. --- !!

19th July 2007, 00:57	#7 (permalink)
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 322 View My Garage	A Hyundai Tucson? Other than the Auto tranny, should fulfill all requirements. __________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr Seuss

19th July 2007, 01:16	#10 (permalink)
rocksterraghu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,138 View My Garage	How about the Mercedes M-Class? Power, safety and build quality, ground clearance all fine? __________________ ... Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

18th July 2007, 23:33	#5 (permalink)
karty_83 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 62	In my brief stint in the forum so far, thought i was the most baffled guy in finalising my car. Glad to find one who has just bettered it

19th July 2007, 01:14	#9 (permalink)
bottle BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 557 View My Garage	how about fusion ? does it still have the abs pack ? dunno about auto though

19th July 2007, 01:23	#11 (permalink)
roms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 405	Buy a Hummer H2 dude. Its "pretty" tough. It would return around 1 km/l, which mind you is quite reasonable .But if thats not good enough for you, you could consider going the CNG way. __________________ Possession:Palio1.6 S10 Obsession:FIAT Stilo 2.4 Abarth,Grande Punto,FIAT Bravo,Alfa Romeo 147 GTA,Alfa BRERA...all things Italian

19th July 2007, 02:54	#13 (permalink)
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 2,364 View My Garage	He is going BMW X3 and we are recommending Fiat Adventure!! No way, Pajero is made from recycled steel you say, is it the same with Montero. Well how about a Audi Q7? __________________ ________________________ Every Ferrari is always a Fiat

19th July 2007, 21:54	#14 (permalink)
Rice_tuner BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 136	hey...theres this new car thats gnna be launched by a relatively new manufacturer... its got a huge HUGE cabin space with 3 bathrooms (1 bedroom is optional tho) as well as 21 feet of ground clearance (which will make "jumping" over speedbreakers,cars,buses,short building easy) has a 3957 L engine pushing out bout 2852 horsepower... pretty decent power to weight (the wt mind u wud be pretty close to 15.2 tons tho) and returns 17 kmpl!!!! (bout 23 w/o the bedroom option) and yea! 5.24 L on road. i'm sorry... but...u have waay too much to ask of from ONE car. cheers tho..happy hunting... __________________ 1986 RD350 1998 Suzuki Shogun 2006 Honda Unicorn 2000 Suzuki Zen (carb, headers,mildly ported) Last edited by Rice_tuner : 19th July 2007 at 21:55.

19th July 2007, 21:58	#15 (permalink)
reignofchaos BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 976 View My Garage	Beemer X3 on CNG . I havent heard anything funnier than that for ages