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Old 10th May 2011, 23:51   #1
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Default Honda Civic R18 Turbo Project Progress Build.

First, lets start with where the car is right now:

This is presently with a SRI, light flywheel, exhaust, piggyback ecu and pulleys. At the time of recording, the car wasn't running at its best because of the temperature outside 47C and the engine reaching temps upto 124C.

Its been quite sometime since the last engine mod was done and the car doesn't feel that powery any more. So now that I have a spare daily driven car I thought of turning the Civic into a project car, adding to it all there is possible for the R18 and see where it can reach.

Its going to be a long shot, and a time-taking project. There is not alot of aftermarket support in India, let alone the R18 engine because of which its going to be a slow build. I'm going with a custom turbo setup, not the one from the TSI or any other bolt on brand. The research for this has taken its cost and now I think its time for the payday. One thing I know for sure is that when the day for the final drive comes, its going to be worth all the time and money.

The pictures will speak for themselves when the time comes. For now, all I can tell you is that this is going to be a massive project, so there would be no time restraints. I will update and upload whenever there is news or a delivery and try to keep this thread updated on all the progress.

And thus the wait begins...

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Old 11th May 2011, 12:32   #2
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All right, don't know about others but I am looking forward to your mods! How about if you can begin with some more info on the mods done already? Which Exhaust, flywheel and pulleys? Dyno'd the car yet?

There is a black turbo charged R18A Civic on the forum, somewhere in Kerala!

And what about upgradation of suspension and brakes? As Spiderman's father says, "with great power, comes great responsibility!"

Good luck with your project and hope to see a sweeet sounding, reliable TC'ed Civic pushing around 200BHP or so!

PS - K&N SRI in your car sounds nice in first gear, but not in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear?!? How come?

This growl is addictive, isn't it?

EDIT - Here is the link to the black TC'ed Civic thread!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...rbo-build.html (Honda Civic R18 TURBO Build)

And the garage pics -

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vbpicg...do=view&g=1446

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Old 11th May 2011, 13:38   #3
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I'm going with a custom turbo setup, not the one from the TSI or any other bolt on brand.
@ The Saint -

The OP says he is looking into customized TC setup, instead of any other bolt on kit! Not sure, what exactly he has in his mind, but I am looking forward to the outcome! TSI kits seem to be very popular with R18 Civic, and the reviews suggest they are reliable too!
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i agree with the availability of after market parts out here but then even internationally the R18s arent really the tuners pick when it comes to tricking out.
why dont you look up for a Frank build? as in mix and match..
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I will be keeping a keen eye on this thread. Yeah the way to go with is a custom turbo job. TSI kit is cheap and there are lots of quality issues associated with the kits and some fitting issues as well.

The Indian Civic being similar to the JDM civic, had hardly any ECU options to support good amount of boost. The hondata is not available for the Indian Civic and I dont think they will come out anytime soon also. All other options are at best good for NA mods or mild boost.

There are a few who have tried to swap the ECU to the USDM one and then couple it to Hondata. I doubt its an option worth the time and effort.

R18 is picking up in terms of performance parts. Now everything is available from Forged Pistons, Rods, even a Cam. So sourcing parts should not be a problem, just ECU selection is gonna be tough.

Best of luck for the build.
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Eagerly looking forward to updates on this thread, CVC. I remember your attention to detail from this discussion (Got an AEM F/IC piggyback for my Honda Civic!).

Do search the forum, there are a couple of turbo Civics onboard. I've kept the option open myself.....however, I'm not a DIY guy like you. If & when I get a turbo, I know my car will go to Leela from Red Rooster.

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TSI kit is cheap and there are lots of quality issues associated with the kits and some fitting issues as well.
With TSI? I thought their parts are very high quality.

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R18 is picking up in terms of performance parts. Now everything is available from Forged Pistons, Rods, even a Cam. So sourcing parts should not be a problem, just ECU selection is gonna be tough.
Can you share any brand names or links? Thanks.
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All right, don't know about others but I am looking forward to your mods! How about if you can begin with some more info on the mods done already? Which Exhaust, flywheel and pulleys? Dyno'd the car yet?

And what about upgradation of suspension and brakes?

PS - K&N SRI in your car sounds nice in first gear, but not in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear?!? How come?
The exhaust is a custom 2.5" setup with a xforce Varex muffler. Flyhweel is clutchmasters and pulleys NST. I'm going to be upgrading the rotors to a better alloy, cant bother spending on bigger brakes as of now. Present rotors are: And I guess the camera had some auto volume leveling which decreased the sound at high background noise. The growl is indeed to die for at high rpms, especially from the outside.

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The Indian Civic being similar to the JDM civic, had hardly any ECU options to support good amount of boost. The hondata is not available for the Indian Civic and I dont think they will come out anytime soon also.
I have already installed the FIC8 for this problem. The only tuning options afaik available for the non-US R18 FI are either the emanage ultimate or the fic.

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i agree with the availability of after market parts out here but then even internationally the R18s arent really the tuners pick when it comes to tricking out.
why dont you look up for a Frank build? as in mix and match..
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TSI kit is cheap and there are lots of quality issues associated with the kits and some fitting issues as well.

Ill be going for a mix and match build. I do not have any explanation for this, but I just didn't have a good feeling to go with the TSI kit. After I made my decision to go with a custom setup, I found that it was a right choice. The TSI is not a bolt-on setup for the JDM Civic because of the body shape and possibly the difference in chassis. The intercooler is not a direct bolt on and needs custom fabrication. Also, the turbo included with the TSI is a journal bearing. You can get the GT25R, which is in fact the gt2554r BB by paying some $300 extra. And based on the flow map of this turbo, at around 7 psi boost and making 220hp, the turbo will start reaching its choke limit (go below 58% efficiency). I do not really fantasize about me hitting full boost by 2k rpm, but want the turbo to hold up at red-lines when called for.

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Do search the forum, there are a couple of turbo Civics onboard. I've kept the option open myself.....however, I'm not a DIY guy like you. If & when I get a turbo, I know my car will go to Leela from Red Rooster.

Can you share any brand names or links? Thanks.
Trust me GTO, I have read every single article there is on turbo'ing the R18. Everything I am doing with this motor is a first-time experience. So, everything that I could find on this motor, I have tried to understand.

I think the products are available at:

Pauter Part Number HON-200-480-1575F - Rods.
GO Power Motorsports | Call to Order – 760-949-1275 - Cams, call for order basis.

Pistons, I think cp makes them for custom setups. I'm not really sure about this, maybe crazydiablo can help us more out here.

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You have got it spot on for all the stuff. The FIC is at best good for low boost applications.

Pretty much all the info that you need is there on 8th Civic. If you want to approach someone for R18 stuff, it would be Road Race or Jotech.
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How is that varex muffler? Can you give me some more details on that? Is there a big difference when you switch from normal to loud with the remote?
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How is that varex muffler? Can you give me some more details on that? Is there a big difference when you switch from normal to loud with the remote?
Does the job well. Straight-through, loud sounding when open and almost stock sounding when closed. Remotes included have an acceptable range.
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Does the job well. Straight-through, loud sounding when open and almost stock sounding when closed. Remotes included have an acceptable range.
Thanks for that. Can you post some pictures of the muffler, and the remote? Possibly a video with the butterfly valve open and shut? This is something I want to get on my Accord V6.

Also where did you buy it from? I see its an Aussie product, but do you get it in the US?

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Has been a very long and tiring day guys.
First shipment arrived around 2 days ago. Since yesterday, have spent most of my time installing whatever was received.

This specific shipment didn't include all my goodies, just some of them.


Pics:

Scangauge
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Bigger Injectors
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Injectors going in
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I dont know how, but I forgot to click the pics of the intake manifold prior to installation. Remembered only later so, installed pics

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And now, pics of why I couldn't get all my parts at once.
Some of the parts my friends wanted and were included in the shipment which was scheduled for first arrival (selflessness).

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AEM Water Injection
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A friend is getting a high end audio install, so called for these
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Now, the injectors are in and so is the intake manifold.
I didn't get time to go for a spin except the distance I drove from my workshop to back home. The intake manifold requires tuning, so cant really comment on it to the point yet. However, the initial observation was WHAT THE ....!

At low rpms, it doesn't really make much noticeable difference. However, when the rpms open up a bit, oh my! At redlines, it felt as if the car wanted to go on and on but was being forced to stop. I did 2-3 redline pulls and the intake manifolds given a new aspect to the engine. I never regretted a rev limiter in this car before, but now I think Ill have to think of an option.

The car idled for around 20 mins at my workshop before I drove away, and even after reaching home, I didn't find a CEL. This has been the case with many R18 intake manifold installers. I think that the problem owes to the correct assembly of the variable length runner motor. I coudln't find detailed instructions on the correct assembly of this motor while installing, and half of it was pure logic. So, I guess Weapon-R did make the correct product but forgot to include good paperwork with it. There is still a possibility of the CEL coming up later though. Scangauge would be to the rescue if it does. Tomorrow, or the day after is going to be the tuning day. Would be able to give more detailed reports after that.

The rest of the products ordered for this car is approx another 2-3 weeks, and it is only when you're waiting for something good that time shows its attitude. Is a long wait from now, and nothing that can be done about it. So tick-tock, tick-tock.
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Thanks for that. Can you post some pictures of the muffler, and the remote? Possibly a video with the butterfly valve open and shut? This is something I want to get on my Accord V6.

Also where did you buy it from? I see its an Aussie product, but do you get it in the US?
Its been ages since I used the silent feature of it, was mostly used when it was new, around 4 years back. Ill see if its still functioning as the muffler has a power window motor on it for the butterfly valve and its life when I bought it was stated to be around 2 years. I don't think I've actually used it since a year. If its working, Ill get a video else a pic of it. The sound I can tell you is pure mean when open. I'm sure it would give satisfactory results in a V6. Go for the 3.0" though. And yeah, its an aussie product. I'd got it from Aus only when I was there. Try searching, there is a possibility of finding it in the US.
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Its been ages since I used the silent feature of it, was mostly used when it was new, around 4 years back. Ill see if its still functioning as the muffler has a power window motor on it for the butterfly valve and its life when I bought it was stated to be around 2 years. I don't think I've actually used it since a year. If its working, Ill get a video else a pic of it. The sound I can tell you is pure mean when open. I'm sure it would give satisfactory results in a V6. Go for the 3.0" though. And yeah, its an aussie product. I'd got it from Aus only when I was there. Try searching, there is a possibility of finding it in the US.
Sounds good (pun intended). Aah, lucky for me I have someone going to Auz next month
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Turbo + Nitrous + Water/Meth injection? You are making it too complex. What horsepower target do you have in mind?
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