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Old 29th October 2006, 02:22   #16
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Default Solution for Turbocharging an Ikon !

Turbo can be installed in 1.6 ikon though plumbing would be a headache!

Following things will be required for up to 8psi Boost max on stock engine

1) T25 turbo & other components like bov, piping, oil lines etc.. etc..
2) Front mount intercooler
3) RC 240 CC injectors
4) Wide band AFR
5) Unichip from Dasket (piggy bag ecu control module)

& most important = BRAKES !!!
Approx Power gain will be in range of 140 BHP with loads of Torque. i.e an increase in approx 50bhp from stock 91 bhp.

This is to give you a basic idea plus there are other things which will be required like Irridium plugs,Plug wires, MSD Dis 2 (though not necessary but only if boost >8psi).

I have seen a Fiesta which shares same engine bay as of Ikon with supercharger installed & that was a Zetec-S engine which was 1.6 twincam
the same supercharger can be retrofitted on an Rocam Engine but doing that will be totally Experimenting on it, might work might not work plus you will need to import parts from U.K which will be Expensive affair.
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Old 29th October 2006, 15:07   #17
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Lightbulb Dasket Chip, eh?

@Rocam: Interesting, interesting.....I don't think I'll be TCing my Ikon 1.6, but do tell me more about the Dasket Unichip - can it piggyback on the Ikon's ECU? and what are it's features (relevant to the Ikon)?

btw, which model supercharger are you referring to?
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Old 29th October 2006, 23:12   #18
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@Rocam: Interesting, interesting.....I don't think I'll be TCing my Ikon 1.6, but do tell me more about the Dasket Unichip - can it piggyback on the Ikon's ECU? and what are it's features (relevant to the Ikon)?

btw, which model supercharger are you referring to?
Yes Unichip will work with Bosch EEC-V ECU used in Ikon the ecu code is "MINT" . The best part of unichip is that it is custom tuned to each car each engine individually depending upon type of modification done so you get max result hp with reliability not like some other piggy bag like which 1 size fits all.

Unichip is sliced in to existing wire loom of vehicle one can alter A/F ratios & ignition timing to get best output & you can set at which point you want what values, its a very powerful tool so it becomes very easy for a tuner to tune the vehicle.

For more info visit their site www.dastek.co.za

P:S Unichip supports lots of cars suzuki,( balenos,esteems) GM,ford etc so all turbo baleno fans you have a good option. no need for greddy sheddy!

Fiesta i am talking is not what is available here currently but Fiesta MK5 was available in UK & S.A its exactly as ikon minus boot infact ikon is based on fiesta platform & it had 1.6 L twin cam named as zetec-s engine which developed by yamaha corp Japan for Ford. To give you an idea this is how it looks like

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Lightbulb Even more interesting....

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Yes Unichip will work with Bosch EEC-V ECU used in Ikon the ecu code is "MINT" . The best part of unichip is that it is custom tuned to each car each engine individually depending upon type of modification done so you get max result hp with reliability not like some other piggy bag like which 1 size fits all.
@Rocam: Well, I checked out Dastek's site, but nothing too specific is on there. Any idea of their distributors or where I can find the Unichip in India? Or would I have to mail-order it direct from Dastek?

Any info u have would be appreciated!

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@Rocam: Well, I checked out Dastek's site, but nothing too specific is on there. Any idea of their distributors or where I can find the Unichip in India? Or would I have to mail-order it direct from Dastek?

Any info u have would be appreciated!

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Dastek doesnt deals with customer directly you will need to shoot a mail to dastek or any of their dealers, infact dastek is looking to appoint a dealer in india which i came to know after speaking to Mr Peter who happens to be M.D of dastek. you can try to contact one of their distributor in malaysia www.visauto.net they will help you out i had interacted with them during my ikon turbo project.
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hey All,
i just joined in and think this is a fantastic place for Car enthusiasts. Have just bought a Ford Ikon 1.3 after test driving almost all cars/ all brands available. Though i love my Ikon..i would love to boost the power(bottom-0-60km) a bit...Can i get 10bhp more without any major changes?? dont wanna supercharge or add turbos.. and would like to change the stock shocks to Konis...please advise. have recently upgraded from bikes to Cars... never thought i d like Cars but i love my car and wanna do anything to make the experince more enjoyble.
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Hey Young Icon!
Welcome to Team-BHP...you should pro'lly post an intro about yourself too, and read thru the gen. announcements....

Glad u went ahead and bought an Ikon....I personally prefer the 1.6's but unfortunately they have been discontinued, leaving India with only the Flair 1.3 now...... Nonetheless u'll find it's a great car, and even better once u start throwing in those upgrades!

I would suggest keeping it simple at least until ur warranty runs out, at which point u can really start changing things under the hood! Now, 10 BHP without major changes is a lot to ask for, but nonetheless u can go ahead with the following which I dont think willl affect ur warranty (comments are invited):

1) upgraded air intake + filter: Of course, there's K&N, but I would also recommend looking into Pipercross' cold air intake systems.

2) iridium plugs with upgraded spark wires (OWS plugs with MSD wiring is the way to go!)

3) if u got the money, go in for an ECU remapping system like Next Level's Tri-phase box (PM Viper for details & pricing). You can read the reports on this thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/access...reports-5.html

Nice thing about the next-level box is that it has been tried out on Flairs before and is known to increase low-end torque. It can also be turned off/disconnected completely for emission tests and warranty checks!

There's a ton of other stuff u can do as far as mods go, but like I said, start simple and work your way up! Get to know the car and its responses first....

Happy driving!
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I agree with Vezj420's suggestions. Also look at Ractive filters for damn good performance at a great price.
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Old 27th November 2006, 17:07   #24
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Hey Young Icon!
Welcome to Team-BHP...you should pro'lly post an intro about yourself too, and read thru the gen. announcements....

Glad u went ahead and bought an Ikon....I personally prefer the 1.6's but unfortunately they have been discontinued, leaving India with only the Flair 1.3 now...... Nonetheless u'll find it's a great car, and even better once u start throwing in those upgrades!

I would suggest keeping it simple at least until ur warranty runs out, at which point u can really start changing things under the hood! Now, 10 BHP without major changes is a lot to ask for, but nonetheless u can go ahead with the following which I dont think willl affect ur warranty (comments are invited):

1) upgraded air intake + filter: Of course, there's K&N, but I would also recommend looking into Pipercross' cold air intake systems.

2) iridium plugs with upgraded spark wires (OWS plugs with MSD wiring is the way to go!)

3) if u got the money, go in for an ECU remapping system like Next Level's Tri-phase box (PM Viper for details & pricing). You can read the reports on this thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/access...reports-5.html

Nice thing about the next-level box is that it has been tried out on Flairs before and is known to increase low-end torque. It can also be turned off/disconnected completely for emission tests and warranty checks!

There's a ton of other stuff u can do as far as mods go, but like I said, start simple and work your way up! Get to know the car and its responses first....

Happy driving!

Thanks for the info guys....about the intro part...I am Anshuman and i m currently in Hyderabad...am mostly a bike nut...having had a RD350, Suzuki Shaolin and currently riding a Pulsar 180...the reason i bought the ikon coz it was old school(like 70's muscle cars)..with a telepathic steering and amazing handling(unlike 70's muscle cars)...had shortlisted the fiesta, Swift and Ikon and finally went for the ikon coz its just fantastic(personal opinion)..it aint really gonna burn a hole in your pocket and is as much fun as anything else around... wanted the 1.6 SXI but all the used cars i saw were faulty(my bad luck) so after 3 months of looking for a good 1.6 i gave up and went for the 1.3 Flair.... its still a lot of fun as long as its over 2000 rpm and i would swear by my Ford...
1.Just wanted to know what all mods could i do to my car without messing with the warranty(its a new car so am a lil cautious).
2.and Vezj ...where could i check Pipercross cold air intakes?
3.Do i need a free flow exhaust (with the air filter)?
4.Do i need bigger jets (with the air filter)?
5.Can i do an ECU remap on my Ikon 1.3 and where?
6. can i go for Konis? would it lower the car.. and would the ride get better?
7. would also want some graphics for my car(am thinking of stripes running through the bonnet and the roof..like the Mustang)..dont want anything too loud but would like your advise...my car colour is black.

Thanks in advance friends.....
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Hey young_icon - congrats on your new car purchase - you seem to be a muscle car freak.

Since your car's black, the broad stripes running down would look great in gun-metal (hyper-black / dark silver). Stick on a great set of alloys, again, in hyper-black & your car would look really cool.

I suggest you contact Viper for your needs (vehicular, if nothing else... dunno if he'd be interested in satisfying other requirements... still, you could ask him... heeheehee!). PM me for his number, or visit his website @ Viper Performance India.
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Cool in response....

Ansh, good to have u on board....although I meant put ur intro in the 'Introduce Yourself' threads on this forum! o well, no harm done I think. on to your questions:

1.where could i check Pipercross cold air intakes?
The only sources I can think of for these is N1 Racing (*************.com) and possibly Viper Performance (*********************.com) in Mumbai. As Elf has said, get in touch with Viper - he can really help out in getting the stuff to u....

3.Do i need a free flow exhaust (with the air filter)?
No, not necessarily, and I wouldn't recommend going for an FFE for sake of your warranty. Search these forums for free-flow advice....these guys know what they're talking about! Keep in mind that an FFE on a Flair might actually sacrifice low-end torque since the engine does need some amount of backpressure at low rpms....comments on this answer are invited from everyone else!

4.Do i need bigger jets (with the air filter)?
I'm presuming you're talking about fuel injector jets....no, u don't, and again, keep ur warranty in mind! An upgraded air intake and/or filter may lean out your air-fuel ratio, but not so much so that you need bigger jets to maintain stoich. This is why K&N, etc. are known to increase mileage, due to the fact that they add more air to the mixture. Down the line, you can toy with your ECU fuel+ignition settings to alter your AFM thru varied jetting. which brings me to.....

5.Can i do an ECU remap on my Ikon 1.3 and where?
The module I mentioned to you - the Next Level Tri-phase, is actually an ECU piggyback module that alters the signals coming and going to the ECU to enrich your AFM (Viper et al, ur comments?). This approach is similar to remapping, although for an actual remap you will have to talk to Ford engineers/OBD service specialists to get it done, at least as far as I know in Hyderabad....I'm sure u can find someone there or on this site who can help u out with complete remaps. PM rdkarthik (based in BLR) for more info on remapping and where/how to get it done.

6. can i go for Konis? would it lower the car.. and would the ride get better?
Konis in the front (go for the yellow sport front struts as reds don't make too much difference, or so I've read) will better ur handling and lessen rolling on tight turns. However, ride quality (read: plushness) will suffer. However, I'm new to suspensions so u might wanna get a 2nd opinion too!
You do get Koni lowering springs for the rear - I've seen em and they look great on the Ikon....the car has a lower, more aggresive stance.

7. would also want some graphics for my car.....
I do like your 'Stang-stripes idea, which of course would look great on black. To each his/her own I guess....lotsa shops will have several designs u can pick from. I prefer tribal-style vinyls myself...like the ones u see in Need for Speed....just don't overdo it!

All the best pal! I certainly enjoyed throwing my answers out there...although we seem to be digressing from the point of this thread (turbos in Ikons)....

haha, we'll leave that one for the moderators to figure out......
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1.where could i check Pipercross cold air intakes?

3.Do i need a free flow exhaust (with the air filter)?

4.Do i need bigger jets (with the air filter)?

5.Can i do an ECU remap on my Ikon 1.3 and where?

6. can i go for Konis? would it lower the car.. and would the ride get better?

7. would also want some graphics for my car.....
Hi Ansh,

Your questions answered below.

1> You could contact City Motors Opera House(Mumbai) who are the distributors for the same.(oops just read you are from Hyderabad)

3> You do not need it but the more you do the bigger the smile on your face.

4> There are no jets on MPFI vehicles there are injectors and NO you do not need larger injectors.

5> You cannot remap the Ikon ECU you will need a stand alone or piggy back computer.

6> There are other alternatives to Koni which are cheaper and better.

7> There are plenty of people who do graphics on cars, its a metter of personal taste.

BTW what kind of budget do you have in mind as all of the above would set you back by approx 70k and yes your warranty would be void by doing all except the graphics.

Viper

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