Engine Transplant in the Sierra - Team-BHP

sunith · 21st June 2006, 20:24

I wanted to know if an engine transplant is possible for the tata sierra. One of my cuz owns one but he feels the engine is very underpowered. can he go for an engine transplant with a more powerful engine? If so what are the possible options? where can i source them from? If no, then can he simply turbo it and will it be sufficient?

mail4ajo · 21st June 2006, 20:33

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Originally Posted by sunith

I wanted to know if an engine transplant is possible for the tata sierra. One of my cuz owns one but he feels the engine is very underpowered. can he go for an engine transplant with a more powerful engine? If so what are the possible options? where can i source them from? If no, then can he simply turbo it and will it be sufficient?

Turbo will be better. My uncle still uses the original turbo that came earlier. That way, you can go to the dealer service and complete it. Other options are to use Peugeot or Izusu engines. Not sure what models will fit. Gearbox also has to match. If the engine doesnt match the gearbox, it will get worn out faster like in case of Matador transplant on the Ambassdor. The engine was too powerful for the OE gearbox and wears out fast.

Check with TATA service and they will help out. All the best.

jyobeb · 21st June 2006, 20:50

Get the Safari turbo engine. It will be a straight fit. You will only need to do alterations for the intercooler. Alternately, use the Scorpio engine, but be warned that it entails quite afew modifications.

islero · 21st June 2006, 22:16

The upcoming 140 bhp DICOR should make for a cool engine transplant into the Sierra.....along wirth some aesthetic mods, you have something really killer

mail4ajo · 21st June 2006, 22:32

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Originally Posted by islero

along wirth some aesthetic mods, you have something really killer

Sierra was the best SUV for mods in those days. I remember a friend who waited for 3 months to get his new Sierra. For the estate it was 4 months waiting period. Everything is gone down the drain now.

Mpower · 21st June 2006, 23:19

Is yours a Sierra turbo. If not then drop in a TCIC engine from Sumo turbo.

.anshuman · 21st June 2006, 23:49

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Originally Posted by islero

The upcoming 140 bhp DICOR should make for a cool engine transplant into the Sierra.....along wirth some aesthetic mods, you have something really killer

the engine alone would cost more than the car itself and he will have to wait for a long time for that engine.
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my suggestion find a safari engine and plonk it in,reasons to support
1- it will be straight fit,minimal modifications
2- you can get the vehicle serviced at tata motors service station
3-sourcing spares wont be problem

mail4ajo · 22nd June 2006, 00:28

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Originally Posted by .anshuman

the engine alone would cost more than the car itself and he will have to wait for a long time for that engine.
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my suggestion find a safari engine and plonk it in,reasons to support
1- it will be straight fit,minimal modifications
2- you can get the vehicle serviced at tata motors service station
3-sourcing spares wont be problem

Is the Safari's engine a straight fit?? Maybe you will need some mods on the engine bay and other mechanicals.

sunith · 23rd June 2006, 15:14

no mine is not a sierra turbo. Its the non turbo version
correct me if i am wrong... isnt the safara TCIC engine the same as the Sierra Turbo Engine??? In what way is the Sumo TCIC engine better than the Safari . TCIC (if at all they are different in the first place) .
How much approximately can i get a brand new safari TCIC engine for... cos a well maintained sierra can be got for as low as 75k.

bhp · 23rd June 2006, 15:18

yes the safari and the sierra turbo shared the same engine......4 yrs back one of my friend had fitted a toyota surf auto tranmission engine into a sierra and it rocked

sunith · 23rd June 2006, 15:32

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Originally Posted by bhp

yes the safari and the sierra turbo shared the same engine......4 yrs back one of my friend had fitted a toyota surf auto tranmission engine into a sierra and it rocked

can you give me more info like
1) how much did it cost him?
2) what was the mileage he got
3) from where did he source the engine?
4) anymaintainance problems?
5) was his a turbo initially or the normal sierra?
kindly give me the info asap...

manson · 23rd June 2006, 16:05

the earlier safaris had the sierra turbo engine. the sierra turbo engine should be a direct bolt on. used to have a sierra turbo ages back. but then if you're looking at a whole lot of improvement compared to the normal 2000 cc engine that you have, it is certianly not worth the effort, instead see the possibilty of a scorpio engine. that would be one helluva combination, beautiful car mated to a gem of an engine. btw, the scorpio 2600 cc (even the 1st gen engines) creams the 2.5 pajeros (2 door/softop/watteva).

manson.

sunith · 23rd June 2006, 16:22

hmmm yeah that should be awesome ... but can some whiz over here actaully tell me if it is possible? i mean is it compatible?

sunith · 24th June 2006, 00:37

also info about the approx cost will be helpful

sunith · 24th June 2006, 00:55

just a question that came up in a discussion.
the tata sierra turbo weighs 1600kg, with a max output of 91bhp = 57bhp/tonne
while the scorpio crde weighs 2500kg(acc to their site), with a max output of 115bhp = 46bhp/tonne.
then what benefits will i get by replacing the sierra turbo engine with that of a scorpio?

21st June 2006, 20:24	#1 (permalink)
sunith BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 68	Engine Transplant in the Sierra I wanted to know if an engine transplant is possible for the tata sierra. One of my cuz owns one but he feels the engine is very underpowered. can he go for an engine transplant with a more powerful engine? If so what are the possible options? where can i source them from? If no, then can he simply turbo it and will it be sufficient?

21st June 2006, 20:50	#3 (permalink)
jyobeb BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 529	Get the Safari turbo engine. It will be a straight fit. You will only need to do alterations for the intercooler. Alternately, use the Scorpio engine, but be warned that it entails quite afew modifications. __________________ Live Life King Size!

21st June 2006, 22:16	#4 (permalink)
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,536 View My Garage	The upcoming 140 bhp DICOR should make for a cool engine transplant into the Sierra.....along wirth some aesthetic mods, you have something really killer __________________ A piece of graffiti- ' Owing to lack of interest, tomorrow has been cancelled'

21st June 2006, 23:19	#6 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 5,323 View My Garage	Is yours a Sierra turbo. If not then drop in a TCIC engine from Sumo turbo. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

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bhp BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: lokhandwala mumbai Posts: 643 View My Garage	yes the safari and the sierra turbo shared the same engine......4 yrs back one of my friend had fitted a toyota surf auto tranmission engine into a sierra and it rocked __________________ 05 suzi baleno 07 city vtec 08 swift DDIS Live Life in the Fast Lane "vvvrrrooooommmmmmmm"

23rd June 2006, 15:14	#9 (permalink)
sunith BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 68	no mine is not a sierra turbo. Its the non turbo version correct me if i am wrong... isnt the safara TCIC engine the same as the Sierra Turbo Engine??? In what way is the Sumo TCIC engine better than the Safari . TCIC (if at all they are different in the first place) . How much approximately can i get a brand new safari TCIC engine for... cos a well maintained sierra can be got for as low as 75k.

23rd June 2006, 16:05	#12 (permalink)
manson Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: mUmbAi Posts: 2,103 View My Garage	the earlier safaris had the sierra turbo engine. the sierra turbo engine should be a direct bolt on. used to have a sierra turbo ages back. but then if you're looking at a whole lot of improvement compared to the normal 2000 cc engine that you have, it is certianly not worth the effort, instead see the possibilty of a scorpio engine. that would be one helluva combination, beautiful car mated to a gem of an engine. btw, the scorpio 2600 cc (even the 1st gen engines) creams the 2.5 pajeros (2 door/softop/watteva). manson. __________________ Robin Last edited by manson : 23rd June 2006 at 16:08.

23rd June 2006, 16:22	#13 (permalink)
sunith BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 68	hmmm yeah that should be awesome ... but can some whiz over here actaully tell me if it is possible? i mean is it compatible?

24th June 2006, 00:37	#14 (permalink)
sunith BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 68	also info about the approx cost will be helpful

24th June 2006, 00:55	#15 (permalink)
sunith BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 68	just a question that came up in a discussion. the tata sierra turbo weighs 1600kg, with a max output of 91bhp = 57bhp/tonne while the scorpio crde weighs 2500kg(acc to their site), with a max output of 115bhp = 46bhp/tonne. then what benefits will i get by replacing the sierra turbo engine with that of a scorpio?

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