Want to turbo-charge my Cielo!! - Team-BHP

shahmotors · 6th June 2004, 01:08

is it possible to covert my cielo automatic in2 a turbocharged vehicle.

how far will it be beneficial

amit

Shan2nu · 6th June 2004, 02:22

Yes you can fit your cielo A/T with a TC.

It's beneficial only if you like revving your car close to the red line, as TCs are know to work effectively at higher rpms.

Domnic once told me that a 2 stage TC will make a bigger difference. While the first and smaller TC kicks in at low rpms (as it doesn't require much effort to brinfg it to optimum revvs due to the small size and the light weight of the TC) the other bigger TC will kick in at a higher rpm.

So in that way you can enjoy a turbo charged boost through out the revv range.

How much gain a TC will provide will depend on the psi ratings. A TC with a psi rating of 14.7 (which is equal to the atmospheric pressure) will technically increase boost by 100 %. *

Regards...
Shan2nu

Pferdestärke · 6th June 2004, 08:27

Do you install stage 2 TC without installing stage 1, or do you have to stage 1 it first and then stage 2?

Domnic · 6th June 2004, 14:57

Let me clear that out for you
What shan means by a two stage turbo is using two turbos instead of one. Where one is of a smaller housing and a smaller ar ratio. Which helps it spool faster, for low rev operation. After which the larger turbo kicks in for higher revs. Which gives a good power band.
But for amits application, a small single turbo would be more than enough. But though when reliability comes into picture the cielo motor has to be worked on intensively to prevent meltdown. As fueling etc has to be taken care of. In a normal motor such as a cielo i think more than 5psi is not recomended at all. Even a 4-5 inch boost will give pretty good power.

Cheers
Dom

Pferdestärke · 6th June 2004, 16:21

Acknowledged, Thanks Dom'
So a 2 Stage TC is good enough , or

speedsatya · 7th June 2004, 03:29

dom ,
will the engine parts of a stock car be able to withstand the extra pressure of the TC.

satya

shahmotors · 7th June 2004, 11:51

do they specially makes turbo kits for cars without turbo or it is the turbo kit of some turbocharged vehicle altered n fitted??

amit

Rehaan · 17th June 2004, 21:54

Hey PS,

Two stage turbo a.k.a twin turbo or bi-turbo.

Amit,
There are specially made turbo kits for specific N/A (normally aspirated) cars, but only available for the cars that are very popular to turbocharge.

cya
R

6th June 2004, 02:22	#2 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,217 View My Garage	Yes you can fit your cielo A/T with a TC. It's beneficial only if you like revving your car close to the red line, as TCs are know to work effectively at higher rpms. Domnic once told me that a 2 stage TC will make a bigger difference. While the first and smaller TC kicks in at low rpms (as it doesn't require much effort to brinfg it to optimum revvs due to the small size and the light weight of the TC) the other bigger TC will kick in at a higher rpm. So in that way you can enjoy a turbo charged boost through out the revv range. How much gain a TC will provide will depend on the psi ratings. A TC with a psi rating of 14.7 (which is equal to the atmospheric pressure) will technically increase boost by 100 %. * Regards... Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

6th June 2004, 08:27	#3 (permalink)
Pferdestärke BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 311	Do you install stage 2 TC without installing stage 1, or do you have to stage 1 it first and then stage 2? __________________ Reasons aside.. Its just not a Ferrari. Ferrari?? The Italian Trash..? Kill Bill

6th June 2004, 14:57	#4 (permalink)
Domnic Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 435	Let me clear that out for you What shan means by a two stage turbo is using two turbos instead of one. Where one is of a smaller housing and a smaller ar ratio. Which helps it spool faster, for low rev operation. After which the larger turbo kicks in for higher revs. Which gives a good power band. But for amits application, a small single turbo would be more than enough. But though when reliability comes into picture the cielo motor has to be worked on intensively to prevent meltdown. As fueling etc has to be taken care of. In a normal motor such as a cielo i think more than 5psi is not recomended at all. Even a 4-5 inch boost will give pretty good power. Cheers Dom __________________ Dom@Team-Bhp.Com

6th June 2004, 16:21	#5 (permalink)
Pferdestärke BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 311	Acknowledged, Thanks Dom' So a 2 Stage TC is good enough , or __________________ Reasons aside.. Its just not a Ferrari. Ferrari?? The Italian Trash..? Kill Bill

17th June 2004, 21:54	#8 (permalink)
Rehaan Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay / New York Posts: 7,574	Hey PS, Two stage turbo a.k.a twin turbo or bi-turbo. Amit, There are specially made turbo kits for specific N/A (normally aspirated) cars, but only available for the cars that are very popular to turbocharge. cya R __________________ The memory of you will ride by our side forever.

6th June 2004, 01:08	#1 (permalink)
shahmotors Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 21	is it possible to covert my cielo automatic in2 a turbocharged vehicle. how far will it be beneficial amit

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speedsatya BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,985 View My Garage	dom , will the engine parts of a stock car be able to withstand the extra pressure of the TC. satya

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shahmotors Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 21	do they specially makes turbo kits for cars without turbo or it is the turbo kit of some turbocharged vehicle altered n fitted?? amit

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