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Old 6th March 2017, 15:26   #1
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Default Aftermarket ISOFIX brackets for a child seat

ISOFIX mounts are not provided in most cars sold in India, and for the safety concious buyer, this becomes a deciding factor while choosing a car.

This does not have to be so. You can buy aftermarket brackets and fit them in your car, that will let you use your child's car seat as it is meant to be used.

I searched on AliExpress with the keywords "ISOFIX Brackets" and found a plethora of options.

Universal fittings are available, as also model specific ones.
The universal ones should, in theory, fit any car.

Universal Latch ISOFIX Belt Connector Seat Belt Interfaces Guide Bracket For Child Safety Seat On Compact SUV
http://s.aliexpress.com/FJ7nQbyI
Price : $ 35.00 (~Rs.2,500)

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If a variant of your car, or the international variant has this feature, they there is a high probability that the provision for fitting an ISOFIX mount is present in your car. Just order the one that is made for your car, and its a direct fit.

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Notice that the holes in the bracket are made to match the screws behind the seat.


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This, for example, is for the focus, which should fit the Ford Ecosport / Figo / Aspire (check the holes/screws behind the seat before ordering)


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For Toyota Corolla
http://s.aliexpress.com/iIVzuIzm

Even if you don't find one for your car and you feel that the Universal one is too expensive or not compatible, it is not that difficult to get the brackets custom fabricated.

Disclaimer: I have not tried any of these products yet.

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Old 6th March 2017, 15:39   #2
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Some time ago I was reading up on the benefits of ISOFIX vs. conventional seatbelt-attached car seats, and came across this page comparing both methods of mounting car seats: http://www.maxi-cosi.com/car-seats/c...eat-belts.aspx

The following information is quoted from the above page:

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Seat belt method
Choose a car seat that clearly shows how the seat belt must be positioned. This will reduce the risk of using it incorrectly.

Pros
Belted car seats are:
  • safe if installed properly.
  • flexible – it’s easy to switch your car seat between cars. But ISOFIX are even easier.
Cons
  • Up to 8 out of 10 inexperienced parents install their car seat incorrectly when using a seat belt. This dramatically reduces the protection offered to your child in a crash.
  • Car seats that use seat belts take more time to install than those installed with ISOFIX.

ISOFIX method
Pros
  • Safety tests show that ISOFIX is extremely safe. The risk of incorrect installation is low – 94% of parents use ISOFIX correctly.
  • ISOFIX is fast and easy. Just one click attaches the car seat solidly to the car.
  • An extra support leg or top tether strap increases stability, keeping your child securely in place.
  • Booster seats can be permanently secured using ISOFIX.

Cons
  • Not all cars have ISOFIX car seat fittings.
  • Some ISOFIX seats can’t be installed using a seat belt, reducing flexibility.
  • ISOFIX seats are often more expensive than belt-based seats.
  • ISOFIX seats generally weigh more than belt-based seats.
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I've read many times that a properly installed seatbelt-based car seat is just as safe (or almost as safe) as an ISOFIX. Of course, the key term here is 'properly installed'. I would prefer this over an aftermarket ISOFIX install from an unknown brand.
Agreed - the pictures showing 'Model A after install' and 'Model B after install' seem to indicate that the only way of securing the metal frame is by the top tether of the child seat connecting to the latch on the frame - not very confidence inspiring.

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Default Re: Aftermarket ISOFIX brackets for a child seat

I've read many times that a properly installed seatbelt-based car seat is just as safe (or almost as safe) as an ISOFIX. Of course, the key term here is 'properly installed'. I would prefer this over an aftermarket ISOFIX install from an unknown brand.

Of course, if you own a car whose international variants come with ISOFIX mounts, chances are you can order those mounts online and fit them on your Indian car.

5 years back, only the premium Germans had this feature. Today, it's good to see mass market cars like the Baleno offer ISOFIX .
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Originally Posted by samaspire View Post
ISOFIX mounts are not provided in most cars sold in India, and for the safety concious buyer, this becomes a deciding factor while choosing a car.

This does not have to be so. You can buy aftermarket brackets and fit them in your car, that will let you use your child's car seat as it is meant to be used.
Is something of this sort compatible with Figo / Aspire? Moreover, how is it fixed on the seat frame, just by 2 bolts?

I don't know about all types of ISOFIX mounts that are in the market but the ones I know (OEM ones) are welded securely on the seat frame and moreover the ISOFIX wire (the brackets in this case) are made of very high strength steel.

This looks good but the kind of load the ISOFIX mounts have to take in case of crash is quite high (more than 150Kg) and the brackets if not well designed can prove to be a weak link and thus might leave it to chance.
Not to forget if the installation is only with the help of bolts, then perhaps proper reinforcement will be required there too.

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I've read many times that a properly installed seatbelt-based car seat is just as safe (or almost as safe) as an ISOFIX.

Of course, if you own a car whose international variants come with ISOFIX mounts, chances are you can order those mounts online and fit them on your Indian car.
I agree, if you don't have ISOFIX mounts on the car, better make use of the Adult seat belt which is just as safe and secure; at least we are assured that it won't give up if properly installed (which isn't all that difficult task anyway).

The 2nd option makes me wonder if at all it is possible, depends on how the ISOFIX mounts are connected to the seat frame.

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Default Re: Aftermarket ISOFIX brackets for a child seat

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ISOFIX mounts are not provided in most cars sold in India, and for the safety concious buyer, this becomes a deciding factor while choosing a car.

This does not have to be so. You can buy aftermarket brackets and fit them in your car, that will let you use your child's car seat as it is meant to be used.
Car seats can be safely and securely fixed with the help of seat belts.
There is no compromise in safety if we do this way. This process is approved by authorities abroad as well.

Secondly, are we sure we can trust the quality and safe worthiness of these after market mounts (that too from China)?

As per my experience,if it's not from a reputed brand, then the quality of Chinese goods tend to be a gamble.
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Please avoid these aftermarket kits unless sold directly by the OEM as an authorized accessory. Child restraint systems are exhaustively tested multiple times, rated and approved by internal and external experts.

Choosing the correct car seat factoring in weight and height of the child, seat contours and firmness of the cushions, friction coefficient of the seat cover and (most important) fitting the seat are much more relevant points.
For example:


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Default Re: Aftermarket ISOFIX brackets for a child seat

Being a father of a 10 month child, i did a lot of research on this.

Currently none of my cars have the isofix option and we rely on the seat belt fastening option.

Most of the times, the rear facing seat is fixed to the i10 that my wife drives and the kid and the maid are at the back.

The problem with the seat belt type seat is that you have to unhook the top seatbelt strap to seat the child. And it is difficult to get the belt to hook up again since the belt is unspooled to the limit. My pajero belt is a few inches short and it's a pain for me to get it right.

Thus, the maid at times doesn't bother with the second hook. This makes it unsafe.

I've caught her a couple of times and have instructed my wife to either do it herself or double check. But, i'm sure there will be lapses.

Thus, the isofix option would be the best thing!

I'm going to explore these mounts. Only problem is that i'll have to buy three (one for each car) and have to change the child seat as well!


EDIT:

A lot of people here question the quality because it's from China. A lot of things get manufactured there and are part of critical components. It's a metal piece. Can't really go too wrong with it.

I'm not advocating this product till i don't see it myself but i see a trend nowadays to discount anything if it's made in China.

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I'm going to explore these mounts. Only problem is that i'll have to buy three (one for each car) and have to change the child seat as well!
Hi Tejas, did you have the chance to get this done? Look forward to your report.
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Hi Tejas, did you have the chance to get this done? Look forward to your report.
Not really!

I'm taking it easy since we already have the rear facing regular child seat without an isofix option and once i shift to the front facing seat which is still a while (probably a year), is when i'll start research. If we change the car in the meanwhile, a lot of headaches get sorted! I'll buy one with an isofix option.
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