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condor · 18th January 2007, 11:56

Tanveer, thanks .. the option to upgrade to 100/90 later, or when driving on high-ways is one of the things I was thinking about.

Going for a full 100/90 setup for the Sumo. Prerana guys are suggesting Mico or Minda. But they say it's better to change the relay also if I want to go for the 75/70.

tsk1979 · 18th January 2007, 11:58

Mico, minda etc., are good companies for relay. Make sure you get the whole wiring kit and not just the relay.

geekay · 19th January 2007, 16:04

functional non show lighting requirements:
Hi,
I am new member, posting this message for the first time. I have Maruti 800( 97 Model) car. I would like to upgrade headlamps. Can I fit ALto's Halogen 12V 60/55W bulb to my car? Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks.
Geekay

tsk1979 · 19th January 2007, 17:02

Your car already has 60/55W halogens.
Alto does not come with any special lamps, these are standard mico/philips etc., bulbs which are there in all cars with H4 bulbs which include the M800,indica, wagonR. santro etc., too

jas_mirage · 20th January 2007, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedzak

Get Philips rally bulbs of 100/90 ratings. they are tend to be illegal but will help a lot and won't cause too much of a trouble to opposite vehicles if the focussing is done correctly. Don't put in anything brighter.

You can get these from any reputed automotive spare shop or accessories shops.

If you have the stock wiring for the Headlamps, it will have to be replaced with a more higher capacity headlamp wiring kit. This can be done from any service workshops or accessories shops.

If you have some spare time, visit Emperor @ Palarivattom, Car shoppe @ Palarivattom, General motor accessories @ Mamangalam or any nearest shop in Cochin.

Wanna know more? Come for our proposed meet. Read about it here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-b...-2006-a-8.html (Rumble in the Jungle - Kerala Meet)

P.S. Next time, type properly to avoid warnings.

hey zak, thanks man.. did the checking out bit in those shops.. they were pretty good and helpful..

sad i couldn't be there for the kerala meet.. was very busy.. and sheesh.. i myself am logging in after a couple of days.. hopefully the typing is done correctly this time around..

sorry about the typing errors in the earlier post..

condor · 22nd January 2007, 17:57

Guys, need help here: Got a 200W relay and swapped the 60/55W bulbs with 100/90W. But dont seem to find much difference. One thing is I got Mico / Bosch H4's rated at 2600 & 1700 lumens, IIRC. Are the bulbs the culprit? Or is it something else?

tsk1979 · 22nd January 2007, 18:23

The best way to find is to fit one old bulb and one new and then park against a wall. You will find out whether output is different.
Do the Bosch H4's say "30% more light" on their packing?
You could also compare with Philips Bluevision, Hella Gold etc., and choose what you like best.

condor · 22nd January 2007, 20:00

Tanveer, thanks. The package doesnt say 30% more light. Are there special / different bulbs from Bosch with such packaging ?

But the brightness did look better on the way back today. I will check out the ones you have mentioned. But mean-while, ensuring correct focussing should help.

I also asked the Bosch dealer regarding the 75/70W's mentioned on the Bosch web-site. The dealer didnt seem aware of these. Atleast, it looks like those are not regularly moving products.

rahul_intlad · 22nd January 2007, 20:16

Do the Bosch 100/90 W also come with 30% more light feature ,similar to philips vision plus.

Ps:
Power Bulbs

NikN · 25th January 2007, 15:12

Just a quick question on what kind of bulbs the palio uses on the low and high beam ? H7s on both ? any idea ?

tsk1979 · 25th January 2007, 17:00

AFAIK its a H7. Your service manual will have the details.

hydrashok · 25th January 2007, 17:21

I guess Palios will need 4 bulbs in total? Because Palios have separate low beam lamps & high beam lamps? I was actually going to ask the same question here today :-)

tsk1979 · 25th January 2007, 17:55

Yes, 4 bulbs if you going for an upgrade.
If you want to upgrade the fogs too, then its like 6 bulbs.
To save costs you can just upgrade the high beams as low beams are pretty adequate on most cars, its the long throw which is an issue.
Make sure you fit in the bulb before buying and observe the throw. Different bulbs have different geometries, so a bulb which does great in a corolla may not be the same in a Palio.

hydrashok · 25th January 2007, 19:06

Thanks, TSK1979! I guess I'll stick to just the high beams. And I will fit and try before I buy.

NikN · 29th January 2007, 12:06

Awesome , H7s it is then !, thanks guys

18th January 2007, 11:56	#136 (permalink)
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BLR : the Speed Breaker City Posts: 2,982 View My Garage	Tanveer, thanks .. the option to upgrade to 100/90 later, or when driving on high-ways is one of the things I was thinking about. Going for a full 100/90 setup for the Sumo. Prerana guys are suggesting Mico or Minda. But they say it's better to change the relay also if I want to go for the 75/70. __________________ Life is Analog. Digital is an approximation.

18th January 2007, 11:58	#137 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,274 View My Garage	Mico, minda etc., are good companies for relay. Make sure you get the whole wiring kit and not just the relay. __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

19th January 2007, 17:02	#139 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,274 View My Garage	Your car already has 60/55W halogens. Alto does not come with any special lamps, these are standard mico/philips etc., bulbs which are there in all cars with H4 bulbs which include the M800,indica, wagonR. santro etc., too __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

22nd January 2007, 17:57	#141 (permalink)
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BLR : the Speed Breaker City Posts: 2,982 View My Garage	Guys, need help here: Got a 200W relay and swapped the 60/55W bulbs with 100/90W. But dont seem to find much difference. One thing is I got Mico / Bosch H4's rated at 2600 & 1700 lumens, IIRC. Are the bulbs the culprit? Or is it something else? __________________ Life is Analog. Digital is an approximation.

22nd January 2007, 18:23	#142 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,274 View My Garage	The best way to find is to fit one old bulb and one new and then park against a wall. You will find out whether output is different. Do the Bosch H4's say "30% more light" on their packing? You could also compare with Philips Bluevision, Hella Gold etc., and choose what you like best. __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

19th January 2007, 16:04	#138 (permalink)
geekay Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5	functional non show lighting requirements: Hi, I am new member, posting this message for the first time. I have Maruti 800( 97 Model) car. I would like to upgrade headlamps. Can I fit ALto's Halogen 12V 60/55W bulb to my car? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks. Geekay

22nd January 2007, 20:00	#143 (permalink)
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BLR : the Speed Breaker City Posts: 2,982 View My Garage	Tanveer, thanks. The package doesnt say 30% more light. Are there special / different bulbs from Bosch with such packaging ? But the brightness did look better on the way back today. I will check out the ones you have mentioned. But mean-while, ensuring correct focussing should help. I also asked the Bosch dealer regarding the 75/70W's mentioned on the Bosch web-site. The dealer didnt seem aware of these. Atleast, it looks like those are not regularly moving products. __________________ Life is Analog. Digital is an approximation. Last edited by condor : 22nd January 2007 at 20:12.

22nd January 2007, 20:16	#144 (permalink)
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,563	Do the Bosch 100/90 W also come with 30% more light feature ,similar to philips vision plus. Ps: Power Bulbs

25th January 2007, 15:12	#145 (permalink)
NikN BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 64 View My Garage	Palio Bulb Type Just a quick question on what kind of bulbs the palio uses on the low and high beam ? H7s on both ? any idea ? __________________ Power without control is pointless

25th January 2007, 17:00	#146 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,274 View My Garage	AFAIK its a H7. Your service manual will have the details. __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....!

25th January 2007, 17:21	#147 (permalink)
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,502 View My Garage	I guess Palios will need 4 bulbs in total? Because Palios have separate low beam lamps & high beam lamps? I was actually going to ask the same question here today :-) __________________ Alpine 9887 \| TRU Tech STEEL S44 & S500 \| Image Dynamics XS65 & CTX6 \| Image Dynamics IDQ12 D2V2 \| Connection Audison

25th January 2007, 17:55	#148 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,274 View My Garage	Yes, 4 bulbs if you going for an upgrade. If you want to upgrade the fogs too, then its like 6 bulbs. To save costs you can just upgrade the high beams as low beams are pretty adequate on most cars, its the long throw which is an issue. Make sure you fit in the bulb before buying and observe the throw. Different bulbs have different geometries, so a bulb which does great in a corolla may not be the same in a Palio. __________________ Reclaimed, wrung dry and recycled....! Last edited by tsk1979 : 25th January 2007 at 17:56.

25th January 2007, 19:06	#149 (permalink)
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,502 View My Garage	Thanks, TSK1979! I guess I'll stick to just the high beams. And I will fit and try before I buy. __________________ Alpine 9887 \| TRU Tech STEEL S44 & S500 \| Image Dynamics XS65 & CTX6 \| Image Dynamics IDQ12 D2V2 \| Connection Audison

29th January 2007, 12:06	#150 (permalink)
NikN BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 64 View My Garage	Awesome , H7s it is then !, thanks guys __________________ Power without control is pointless

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