Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

[anantnehru]

Originally Posted by abk

Folks, any clue how many headlamps Indica Vista has? Is it single H4 or twin reflectors (maybe H1 & H7)? Sorry to be asking such a trivial question but from the pictures that i have seen so far it is not much apparent Wish i could see the car in real life

Thanks!

Its not H4 for sure, its twin reflectors. More than that cannot say as me also have not seen car from close - seen it on the road here and there.

[styx71]

Hello,

I had been to the Hyundai Service today enquiring about upgrading the headlamps on my car & this is what they say:

Electrician - If you are going for 100/90, no need for any - Relay, CutOut, Wiring or Ceramic holders. Just an additional Fuse is required. (This is totally contradictory what i've come across in this website regarding headlamps upgrade)

Manager - Totally discourages from going for an upgrade. He wanted to show me a couple of vernas which went for an upgrade & ended up with their lens becoming completely foggier than with the stock headlamps

I've 2 questions:

1. Can any of the users who have upgraded to 100/90 headlamps(Verna), tell me, if the lens of headlamps have become foggier than normal(using the stock 65/55) after considerable usage?

2. Will Verna's existing setup withstand 100/90 or would it be safer to go for the Relay, CutOut, Wiring & Ceramic holders?


Can someone help me out with my questions


Thank You

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[Sudipto-S-Team]

Hi Styx
I had a more or less similar experience as you recently. The experience was like this. The service advisor strongly advised against any change in the OE set up. They are basically programmed to behave like this by their principals - in my case Maruti. Also, they don't get a chance to learn anything beyond what their principals teach them. In my case he even came up with some technical objections, which Nitrous thankfully clarified was pure bull's excreta !!
So I found out the head electrician in the service center. Please remember the head electrician in any garage is a highly valued mechanic and he is generally highly pampered by every one there. Asked him how he would advise me to upgrade the light for highways. He gave the answer that I was expecting (earlier other electricians said just change the bulb and I rejected them as dangerously ignorant) - add a relay, a wiring harness and then the higher wattage bulbs. I knew he was the person. Asked him about the holders and he said the wiring harness comes with the holders.
Lured him with some money and he did it in about half an hour - outside the main workshop. He could lose his job if he was caught doing it.
The OE set up is very much there and not tampered with. The new wiring harness bypasses the OE wiring. He just sealed the end points with black tape and the OE set up can be activated again if I want to. The new set up is almost like a plug and play system.
When they do it, ensure that they strap the wiring harness to the body of the car properly and the relay is properly and firmly attached somewhere.
Only thing that I was not too happy with is that the mechanic insisted on the brand that he trusts - PMP. They had not heard of Roots for headlight. I had not heard about PMP but found out it's okay.
It's been around a week. I am quite happy with the improved light. Can face the Ambassador taxis more boldly now.
The person who gave me the confidence in the process is Nitrous and also AK Roy. Go for it. If you don't like you can always go back to the old system.
Sorry about such a long post.

[ultimatechamp]

Originally Posted by Sudipto-S-Team

Hi Styx
I had a more or less similar experience as you recently. The experience was like this. The service advisor strongly advised against any change in the OE set up. They are basically programmed to behave like this by their principals - in my case Maruti. Also, they don't get a chance to learn anything beyond what their principals teach them. In my case he even came up with some technical objections, which Nitrous thankfully clarified was pure bull's excreta !!
So I found out the head electrician in the service center. Please remember the head electrician in any garage is a highly valued mechanic and he is generally highly pampered by every one there. Asked him how he would advise me to upgrade the light for highways. He gave the answer that I was expecting (earlier other electricians said just change the bulb and I rejected them as dangerously ignorant) - add a relay, a wiring harness and then the higher wattage bulbs. I knew he was the person. Asked him about the holders and he said the wiring harness comes with the holders.
Lured him with some money and he did it in about half an hour - outside the main workshop. He could lose his job if he was caught doing it.
The OE set up is very much there and not tampered with. The new wiring harness bypasses the OE wiring. He just sealed the end points with black tape and the OE set up can be activated again if I want to. The new set up is almost like a plug and play system.
When they do it, ensure that they strap the wiring harness to the body of the car properly and the relay is properly and firmly attached somewhere.
Only thing that I was not too happy with is that the mechanic insisted on the brand that he trusts - PMP. They had not heard of Roots for headlight. I had not heard about PMP but found out it's okay.
It's been around a week. I am quite happy with the improved light. Can face the Ambassador taxis more boldly now.
The person who gave me the confidence in the process is Nitrous and also AK Roy. Go for it. If you don't like you can always go back to the old system.
Sorry about such a long post.

Hi Sudipto-da
I did exactly what you have so painstakingly elaborated.My OE set-up is still there,but I have fitted separate wiring harness which goes though a corrugated pvc pipe strapped at different places to the car body (the rear wall of the engine bay),it also has two separate relays for each bulb,as I am using 130/100W bulbs (which gives enormous white light),two bakelite holders complete the ensemble! And voila,you can go out to the jungle!
Friends,you can have a look in the 'view my garage' section for pics !

[jakky88]

hey guys i want to put undercar kit for my swift. How is the streetglow under car LED kit ?

[badboyscad]

Originally Posted by jakky88

hey guys i want to put undercar kit for my swift. How is the streetglow under car LED kit ?

IMO, undercar LEDs dont look too good. go for a neon kit instead. i saw a streetglow undercar neon kit in one of the car accessories shop near the stadium. they quoted around 6.5k for it( but that is months ago). the cheaper option is to go for local neons(take a look at my gallery to get an idea) that can be found in private buses, these neons are really bright.

[akshay1234]

got 100/90w osram bulbs on my getz. they seem as good as the narvas i had earlier though the narvas were a bit whiter. paid 700.

[anantnehru]

Hey,
Anyone know which bulbs fit into the '08 Fiesta? Headlights and Fogs both?
Thanks!

[anantnehru]

Ok, found for the headlights - H1 and H7 - need the fog lights now. Maybe we should have a separate thread for ONLY bulbs numbers and the cars they are in. Would make things alot simpler. Anyone?

[s0uljah]

Originally Posted by jakky88

hey guys i want to put undercar kit for my swift. How is the streetglow under car LED kit ?

Streetglow is way overpriced in that sort of stuff. They were the ones who started it all though nowadays you get much more affordable stuff from China.

Some people prefer LED, some prefer NEON. You can get LED stuff for way cheaper.

What colour are you looking at? Or you could get the 6 Colour LED tubes...search on Ebay India you can find it.

[jakky88]

thanks a lot. I am looking for green color. I have a black swift , green will be good i guess !!

[partypest]

Hello Fellow BHpians,

i am looking to change the head lamps on my car to HID (Xenon), the cars which i am planning for are the swift, i10 and accord.

i found two companies which fit my requirement philips and P4
i wanted your help in which one is the better one to go for.

Philips cost is 9.5k which will have low beam only. (2 bulbs) 6000k, had a demo of them and they seem to be good
p4 is coming to 11k which would be low and high beam (but only two bulbs would be there, heard there is some switching that happens) plan to have a demo.

Please help me out. thanks...

[styx71]

Originally Posted by Sudipto-S-Team

Hi Styx
I had a more or less similar experience as you recently. The experience was like this. The service advisor strongly advised against any change in the OE set up. They are basically programmed to behave like this by their principals - in my case Maruti. Also, they don't get a chance to learn anything beyond what their principals teach them. In my case he even came up with some technical objections, which Nitrous thankfully clarified was pure bull's excreta !!
So I found out the head electrician in the service center. Please remember the head electrician in any garage is a highly valued mechanic and he is generally highly pampered by every one there. Asked him how he would advise me to upgrade the light for highways. He gave the answer that I was expecting (earlier other electricians said just change the bulb and I rejected them as dangerously ignorant) - add a relay, a wiring harness and then the higher wattage bulbs. I knew he was the person. Asked him about the holders and he said the wiring harness comes with the holders.
Lured him with some money and he did it in about half an hour - outside the main workshop. He could lose his job if he was caught doing it.
The OE set up is very much there and not tampered with. The new wiring harness bypasses the OE wiring. He just sealed the end points with black tape and the OE set up can be activated again if I want to. The new set up is almost like a plug and play system.
When they do it, ensure that they strap the wiring harness to the body of the car properly and the relay is properly and firmly attached somewhere.
Only thing that I was not too happy with is that the mechanic insisted on the brand that he trusts - PMP. They had not heard of Roots for headlight. I had not heard about PMP but found out it's okay.
It's been around a week. I am quite happy with the improved light. Can face the Ambassador taxis more boldly now.
The person who gave me the confidence in the process is Nitrous and also AK Roy. Go for it. If you don't like you can always go back to the old system.
Sorry about such a long post.

Thanks for the reply, Sudipto.

I have one more question - can we get the plastic lens in front of the headlight assembly replaced with a glass one? I mean, is there any place where we can source these type of parts(assuming they are available)? I suppose the glass lens would solve the problem of the lens becoming foggy.

Thank You

[manojgautham]

Originally Posted by partypest

Hello Fellow BHpians,

i am looking to change the head lamps on my car to HID (Xenon), the cars which i am planning for are the swift, i10 and accord.

i found two companies which fit my requirement philips and P4
i wanted your help in which one is the better one to go for.

Philips cost is 9.5k which will have low beam only. (2 bulbs) 6000k, had a demo of them and they seem to be good
p4 is coming to 11k which would be low and high beam (but only two bulbs would be there, heard there is some switching that happens) plan to have a demo.

Please help me out. thanks...

Philips 6000k H4 size has both high and low beam.

What is the colour temp for the P4?

[partypest]

Well i am not sure, as i plan to get in touch with the dealer... but what do you say between the two brands?

Originally Posted by manojgautham

Philips 6000k H4 size has both high and low beam.

What is the colour temp for the P4?