Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

[Samir Taheer]

Mods - is it ok to put prices?

I have some UK prices, but i dont know if that applies to whats going on in India. They are readily available here.

Anant - You were actually right. You can get H4 Bi-Xenon conversions. But if you say your bulbs move to adjust the high and low beam then its a standard HID conversion.

And yeah the Philips Crystal Vision bulbs are really good.

[sai_ace]

Hello guys.....I have few queries ...Hope u can help me with them...

I own a Alto Vxi and i have just changed the headlamp assembly. I need to put in new bulbs and I don't know what the stock bulb wattage is. When I asked accessory shop dealer he was trying to sell me some Phillips bulb and a relay set. He dint specify any model. I am looking at a good upgarde to my lights. I dont know much of the technical aspects.

If I am buying a new pair of bulbs, whats the maximum wattage i can go upto without interfering with relays and stuff. I liked the Osram nightbreakers (thanks to the pics below). Can i get in chennai or do i buy it online?

Also, how effective is 'Bluish' light as compared to the regular ones for the same wattage. I was told that the blue ligts dont function well in the train. Is it true?

Also I want fix fog lights for my car. Is this a simple fix it job or do I need to work on other aspects of the electrical system as well? Any particular brands that will be a straight fit? I need to fix the lights onto my front bumper. (flush fit)

[white_vdi]

sai i believe you can upgrade to 60/55w bulbs without installing any relay.

and you right blue light in not effective in the "train"

visibility is restricted during rains with blue tinted bulbs. i would suggest go for white light. philips xtreme power and osram nightbreaker are good options.

[Samir Taheer]

Sai - Blue Lights arent the best in the train, rain or the fog. White Vdi is right 60/55w bulbs dont need a relay but they arent really an upgrade.

Philips or Osram bulbs are good. You would need a relay and a switch. Any good electrician should be able to do the work for you. To be honest for normal everyday use the top of the range Philips or Osram wouldnt be much different. Please dont fit mechanical relays. You get some really good electronic ones. They are alot more efficient.

Foglights - I am a fan of Hella's. You can get the Hella 500's which should be good for what you need. You can get rectangular or round ones. Also there are more expensive ones.

What about HID conversions? Like the one Anant has done. They are pricey but really good.

[HappyWheels]

Sai,

As White_Vdi has mentioned, the stock lights are 60/55W.

I guess what the accessory dealer was trying to sell was the right deal, at least with respect to the requirement.

I have Philips 100/90W bulbs on my Alto LXi and have been having it for the last 3+ years. Fits the requirement perfectly - good to get the other vehicles to dim down and good visibility also.

The bulbs (sold in single units) will cost around 130~150Rs per piece and the relay (Bosch or PMP). You do need the relay to take care of the extra current requirement.

The cost of all these equipments and labor should never be more than 1000Rs (max.) If the price qouted is right, go for it!

[harsh87]

Originally Posted by adi99

Thank you! This is what I wanted to know. Actually I had Philips diamond vision on my zen which I had to remove because Bangalore cops had problem with it! I still have it at home and now using Philips Rally for zen. I plan to buy a 4300K HID for my swift but do not want cops to call it "Fancy light" and fine me. Since you have one, just wanted to confirm

Hi adi99

I've been using 4300K hids in my car as well as all the cars in our family for more than 2 years now.

I have not had any cop trouble since then. The light looks very bright but has a slight yellow tinge, so shouldn't attract any trouble.

The swifts reflector is very efficient and puts out a nice cut out.
I hear that original phillips HID kit is available in the market for 9k these days and is available in 4300K.

[adityamunshi]

I want to change a blown reversing light bulb in my Indica. How do i open it up ?

Someone please help.

[great_guns]

hi,,

I've noticed that the headlights on my new Palio dont throw very far when dipped. I also notice that the light beam goes slightly further on the left than on the right. Is this normal??

The headlights look pretty OK when on high beam.

[s0uljah]

Originally Posted by harsh87

I've been using 4300K hids in my car as well as all the cars in our family for more than 2 years now.

I have not had any cop trouble since then. The light looks very bright but has a slight yellow tinge, so shouldn't attract any trouble.

The swifts reflector is very efficient and puts out a nice cut out.

True!

Compare a Swift running HID's vs a Santro with 100/90 halogens and you will surprised and which one is more 'intense'. I can say this because we have both Somehow the Santro reflectors give SUPER output.

[iraghava]

Yup, the Santro has one hell of a headlight design! My OHC's relay equipped 100/90 shazam is absolutely no bloody match for the Santro's stock setup! It's simply fantastic!

[adi99]

Originally Posted by harsh87

Hi adi99

I've been using 4300K hids in my car as well as all the cars in our family for more than 2 years now.

I have not had any cop trouble since then. The light looks very bright but has a slight yellow tinge, so shouldn't attract any trouble.

The swifts reflector is very efficient and puts out a nice cut out.
I hear that original phillips HID kit is available in the market for 9k these days and is available in 4300K.

Thank you, harsh97! Which brand are you using? Did you buy it in India or imported it?

Originally Posted by s0uljah

True!

Compare a Swift running HID's vs a Santro with 100/90 halogens and you will surprised and which one is more 'intense'. I can say this because we have both Somehow the Santro reflectors give SUPER output.

s0uljah, I see you have HID with projector headlamps. How is it compared to a HID on OE relector setup?

I need to ask you this - Any problems with the cops in Bangy???

[s0uljah]

Projector headlamps were replaced.

Now im using 4300k in the OE headlamps. No problems with cops at all since its mostly yellow. Im on low beam always and have proper focussing. Once I got stopped for my number (which is absolutely simple and straightforward, but a smaller one up front. Still they didnt object to the lights.

When the cops wake up they are usually after 'blue' lights. Regardless of xenon or halogen. If they REALLY wake up then they will catch you for white light, 100/90 etc.

The 100/90 in the santro is so great honestly. I had 130/100 earlier but thats because the front screen had a light tint on it.

[Samir Taheer]

Originally Posted by great_guns

hi,,

I've noticed that the headlights on my new Palio dont throw very far when dipped. I also notice that the light beam goes slightly further on the left than on the right. Is this normal??

The headlights look pretty OK when on high beam.

Greatguns - THe lights fall to the left, so that you dont blind on coming drivers. If you think the light falls too low then you can adjust them. There should be adjusting screws to the top and sid eof the headlamo unit. Find a nice, dark, straight road and adjust them to when you like.

[tsk1979]

I am thinking about putting HID(H3 I think) in the fog lamp housing of Safari. I should get a unit for around 4K.
My only worry is river fording. Intend to do that quite a bit, and this means a bust expensive HID.
So I am wondering, how about auxilary fog lamps with HID (H3 single, no high low business) to use as and when required.
Has anybody any idea about availability of such kits? How much is the cost.
I think the reflectors should be around 600rs or so, and another 3500 odd for the HID kit.

[anantnehru]

Originally Posted by Samir Taheer

Mods - is it ok to put prices?

I have some UK prices, but i dont know if that applies to whats going on in India. They are readily available here.

Anant - You were actually right. You can get H4 Bi-Xenon conversions. But if you say your bulbs move to adjust the high and low beam then its a standard HID conversion.

And yeah the Philips Crystal Vision bulbs are really good.

Yup, mine is a Hi/Lo dual beam conversion.


You also dual xenon (HID) kits, where there are bulbs/filaments high beam and low beam. Picture attached since I'm sure I havent been able to explain it properly.


IMHO, the Crystal Vision were good since I had stock before that. These HIDs make the Crystal Vision look pathetic. But out of personal experience, I found them to really bad on rainy/wet days.