Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

[muneemmk]

Originally Posted by white_vdi

.The part i missed was that HID is not allowed without projectors.

But this kind of setup comes as standard in Toyota Corolla Altis. That is the Altis come with HID without Projectors.

[white_vdi]

muneemmk you are right but it is on the low beam not high. and from what i have observed, HID on altis is not that harsh on the oncoming traffic. high is what typically blinds the traffic on the opposite side. and when coming as standard fitment, i am sure the company must have worked on the reflector as well.

[NiTviN]

Originally Posted by Ravveendrra

HIDs (Xenons) are best used with the projectors. This means that one has to change the headlamp unit. HIDs without projectors cause glare and scattering of light, they are therefore illegal. The HID is not just replacement of bulbs, it is a complete kit with ballast etc. and needs to be wired, routed and fitted properly. The whole kit is quite expensive.

Thanks white_vdi and Ravveendrra. You guys have been very helpful. I got the difference between Halogens Vs Xenon and HID. One question though. I just want to upgrade my stock bulbs to a better (brighter) ones. When I enquired at an auto shop, the guy told me that we can upgrade to 100/90 Watts and since we need more electrical power we need to use some relay or some sort of component (sorry dont know too much technical stuff on lighting!!!). This made sense to me since we are talking about upgrading a 60/50 bulb to a 100/90 bulb. Is this true? Whats the component he is talking abt?

What do you guys suggest me to do? Should I go for 100/90 upgrade with that relay stuff? Of just use Philips Extreem Power 60/50 bulb upgrade? I dont want to go for the HID ones right now.

[white_vdi]

nitvin if you dont hit the highway that often, then even xtreme power will do. it provides nice illumination. else add a relay along with ceramic holders and get a 100/90 upgrade done. but remember to get a good quality relay and holder if you plan to install 100/90 otherwise your wiring will get damaged in the long run.

[HappyWheels]

Nitvin,

You will need a relay and also the holder when moving up to 100/90 bulbs. The cost of equipments and installation must be in the range of 1000 Rs.

But as White_VDi said, do this change if you need high power. If you do mostly city driving, then the new bulbs might suffice.

[phamilyman]

@Shaken: Thanks. Its a full harness and has all you said. My bad.

@AN: I have no clue - I am getting in gurgaon, in the auto market next to atul kataria chowk. Looks quite legit - recent pack and well packed - looks of okay construction too

[turbo1787]

Hey guys please help me out- My swift Vdi's right fog lamp bulb has gone kaput twice now. After the stock bulb fused i replaced it with a local one which again fused after a month or so( same spec as stock)- i plan to upgrade to brighter bulbs preferably white/blueish light ( bling factor) now there are two main doubts:-

1. What should be done to ensure that the bulb does not blow again?

2. Which is the best replacement for stock fog lamp bulbs ( keep in mind the bling factor). I have heard osram nightbreakers are good but are they available for foglamps also.

[white_vdi]

@ turbo1787 : get your wiring checked. i suspect something is wrong there. and replacing the fog bulb, you need a H8 or H11. either one will fit in. night breaker is whitish but not pure white. if you want white light, try philips. there are some options in philips.

[1001bhp]

Was planning on putting HIDs for my swifts fog lamps..Wat size should i put as i ll be getting the HIDs from abroad..

[anantnehru]

Originally Posted by 1001bhp

Was planning on putting HIDs for my swifts fog lamps..Wat size should i put as i ll be getting the HIDs from abroad..

H8 or H11. But from what I've heard doesnt make much sense to have HIDs in the fog lights because they wont make much of a difference.

[white_vdi]

+1
HID in fogs will only add to the bling factor. no functional value.

[Ravveendrra]

Originally Posted by white_vdi

+1
HID in fogs will only add to the bling factor. no functional value.

It actually depends on the fog lamps, the reflectors, the spread and throw of light etc. On my Laura, I use them as auxillary driving lights as the throw and spread is very good. The 'fog' lamps cut off exactly where the low beam starts, so with both on, there is a seamless area of light which enables me to see low lying obstacles etc. I cannot do the same in my GTX as the throw and reach are just not adequate.

HIDs in Fog lamps can be counter productive in case of fog or rain, the higher intesity of light means more of it being reflected back at you. This reflected light can blind you. The HIDs in the fog lamps have to be below 4000 Kelvin to be of any use.

Cheers,

[1001bhp]

I am puttin the HIDs for the fogs for the bling factor only..but since i do a lot of long distance travelling thru rain and fog,i am contemplating of putting a pair of hellas or lightforce..

[turbo1787]

Originally Posted by white_vdi

@ turbo1787 : get your wiring checked. i suspect something is wrong there. and replacing the fog bulb, you need a H8 or H11. either one will fit in. night breaker is whitish but not pure white. if you want white light, try philips. there are some options in philips.

Thanks White_vdi, I shall get the wiring checked at M.A.S.S.
Could you please give me some options about the White bulbs,are you sure H11 will not harm the reflectors and stock wiring+holders are adequate( I haven't till date done a headlamp/foglamp upgrade so please don't mind).

[white_vdi]

turbo 1787 you can search for osram cool blue or philips diamond vision (if i am not mistaken).