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Old 26th October 2004, 18:05   #1
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Hi all,

I am buying a Wagon R. Was intially planning to fit it with LPG kit bcuz of the prohibitive petrol prices (and the way things are, prices are headed only one way - north !!). Most maruti dealerships i went to simply refused fitting the car with the kit and said if incase i got it done from outside then the warranty on the car will be void. All excpet Sai Service (Parel) said they will do the fitting and give gurantee.

As of now i have decided against it. But would you suggest going in for LPG in a new car - or its better to do it after couple of years ?
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Old 26th October 2004, 22:50   #2
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ok.. i have heard it. works.
but then i think its a waste of that 62bhp engine.
better buy a diesel car
or wait for an year or 2 before u decide.

gas vehicles lose that sharp response.



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Old 27th October 2004, 00:35   #3
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but i heard cng engines loose out on power....but lpg doesnt seem to affect them as much....???

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I heard it eats into the life of the engine.
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LPG is for cooking man... Sorry but thats just what i feel.. I would never run my car on LPG. The car just doesnt feel the same with it. Would rather get a diesel car than put an LPG kit in a petrol one.
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Quote[/b] (aggressive_anush @ Nov. 03 2004,15:09)]LPG is for cooking man... Sorry but thats just what i feel.. I would never run my car on LPG. The car just doesnt feel the same with it. Would rather get a diesel car than put an LPG kit in a petrol one.
I guess it would be ok to run tractors on sunflower oil. *Like some farmers in US do. *But never a car!!!!!
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Well prats,if u really dunt car for performance and stuff then go ahead and do it.But remember one more thing,ur overall engine life will refuce by around 20%-30% which is not advisable under any circumstances.
Drive the car till warranty lasts and then think bout it.

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I've been wondering about the cost calculation. Some time ago, the LPG kit cost about 20k to fit. Now after that your per km price goes down from, say Rs. 3.75 (assuming Rs.45 for a litre of petrol, and a Zen doing 12 kmpl) to perhaps Rs. 2.50 (example figure). However, you've already spent 20k on the LPG kit, so to make up and actually benefit from the lower prices you'd have to drive for maybe 10,000 km (im really bad a maths). Anything less than 10,000 km, and u're better off just spending on petrol instead.

This is the reason I've stuck to petrol. Can someone prove me wrong here? (please do..)

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Quote[/b] (aalaap @ Nov. 04 2004,22:24)]I've been wondering about the cost calculation. Some time ago, the LPG kit cost about 20k to fit. Now after that your per km price goes down from, say Rs. 3.75 (assuming Rs.45 for a litre of petrol, and a Zen doing 12 kmpl) to perhaps Rs. 2.50 (example figure). However, you've already spent 20k on the LPG kit, so to make up and actually benefit from the lower prices you'd have to drive for maybe 10,000 km (im really bad a maths). Anything less than 10,000 km, and u're better off just spending on petrol instead.

This is the reason I've stuck to petrol. Can someone prove me wrong here? (please do..)

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Petrol - 45/15 = 3.00/km
LPG * *- 20/13 = 1.55/km

That's an approx value. Now do the math. The 20k or now something like 18k spent would be saved within one year of you driving for about 1000km/month.

12500km*1.45[saved on petrol] = 18125. *The rest of your car life, it would be almost 50% savings.

Also, since the petrol washes off the engine oil and LPG does'nt do that, your maintainace bill will also come down.
if that is also taken into account, the savings would be higher.
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ok
car cost 3.5 lakhs
I say car life will go down by 30%... so.. 3.5*30%... 1.05 lakhs

Assuming you drive 12500km/year... you save almost 19k.

now the total capital cost to recover is 1.25 lakhs (car 1.05 + .20 kit)
1.25/.19=6.58 years.

now is that really worth it! as normally people don't drive a car for more than 5 years.

One more thing... for me loss of performance is invaluable.
So 1.25 lakhs + invaluable = more than one can ever recover!

Now one can say.... this isn't taking into account the present value of the costs. Well some one else plz do that calculation!
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Topic moved to Modifications section.

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That's some interesting calculation. But I guess since my car is already 7 years old (97 mfg, 98 reg), I won't be using it for another 5 years to be able to recover the cost. And then again, I don't drive a thousand km a month! The max I do is 75km on a weekend. I don't do that every weekend of the month, so even if you calculate the upper limit, its just 375km (you know why i flunked maths?)...

So this petrolhead will not become and LPGhead anytime soon

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Quote[/b] (SLK @ Nov. 08 2004,13:39)]ok
car cost 3.5 lakhs
I say car life will go down by 30%...
Thats not true .......
Auto LPG is better than Petrol .... and it doesnt reduce engine life but infact it makes engine run smoother ...... and it doesnt pollute much ...
I have Fitted an Auto LPG kit on my Corsa in sep 2003 and have done about 19000 kms till now on Auto LPG .... My cars Engine performance became better , response is positive,...
the only problem with the LPG kit is that of the extra Tank for LPG that we have to install in the Boot reducing the boot space by 50% ....
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