Stiffer Coils for my S10 - Team-BHP

16v100bhp · 12th December 2006, 00:25

Hi guyz,
I had put 15 inch wheels on my palio S10 and the problem now is that the rear wheels are slightly scraping against the fenders. This happens only when there is load at the rear. I was adviced to put stiffer coil springs at the rear.
Please let me know if anyone has ever done this on a palio? Since this is not my daily ride i can always sacrifice a little on comfort (for better stability of course)

Here are some snaps of my ride. The black marks you see on the insides of the fender are where the paint had peeled off coz of this.

hydrashok · 12th December 2006, 06:46

16v, what profile is your tyre? and what section? I have 205/50 R15s on my Palio 1.2, and I have the same problem. I've now learned to drive in such a way that this doesn't happen when I have a load in the back, but I'm interested in how to get this totally solved too.

I haven't had paint peeling off or anything as bad yet, though. Are you running 60 or 55 profiles? That must be why the tyre scrapes so often.

From the S10s and Palio 1.6s I'd seen here, the fenders are actually a bit wider than the 1.2 (with the bulges in the fenders), and upto 205s should go in with no problem (unlike the 1.2 which will give trouble with anything over 195s)

Godfather · 12th December 2006, 07:19

Thats a very nice looking car... Love the stripes...
What profile tires are you running?? i think 195/45 should be fair enough for the car.... since this is not your daily ride.... anyways you can try to install the yellow koni's only at the rear... may cost around 20K for a pair...

Godfather

aZa · 12th December 2006, 09:28

Nice looking ride 16v100 !!! pls share more pics

Harrie · 12th December 2006, 11:51

Contact Psycho. He can get you a complete suspension work done for about 15k.

16v100bhp · 12th December 2006, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrashok

16v, what profile is your tyre? and what section? I have 205/50 R15s on my Palio 1.2, and I have the same problem. I've now learned to drive in such a way that this doesn't happen when I have a load in the back, but I'm interested in how to get this totally solved too.

I haven't had paint peeling off or anything as bad yet, though. Are you running 60 or 55 profiles? That must be why the tyre scrapes so often.

From the S10s and Palio 1.6s I'd seen here, the fenders are actually a bit wider than the 1.2 (with the bulges in the fenders), and upto 205s should go in with no problem (unlike the 1.2 which will give trouble with anything over 195s)

Hi hydra,
Even i am getting used to driving it that way. You have to watchout for dips more than bumps on the road.
The tyre is size is the same as yours 205/50 R15. The paint peels you see are not entirely coz of the tyres, I tried bending the fenders with a round steel round (something i read in a book as a "baseball bat technique" to bend the fenders). Sadly it didnt workout and i ended up like this.

16v100bhp · 12th December 2006, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather

Thats a very nice looking car... Love the stripes...
What profile tires are you running?? i think 195/45 should be fair enough for the car.... since this is not your daily ride.... anyways you can try to install the yellow koni's only at the rear... may cost around 20K for a pair...

Godfather

I would more than happy if i could get a pair of KONIs for my palio. In fact this was the very first option that striked me. I contacted elektra automotive at chennai but they said its not coming for palios and i would have to do some alteration and stuff for this.

Now i'm just thinking of replacing the coils alone (harder ones) which might fit into in my existing strut.

16v100bhp · 12th December 2006, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrie

Contact Psycho. He can get you a complete suspension work done for about 15k.

Hi Harrie, Is this guy chennai based? 15k seems to be cool, but i'd like to know more.

moralfibre · 12th December 2006, 21:44

I find 205's to be an overkill for the Palio. The suspension is already stiff and you want to go stiffer. I would prefer to downsize my tyres for the price.

Mpower · 12th December 2006, 22:35

Maybe you can try springs from a Petra diesel. They could be stiffer, otherwise there is not much aftermarket support for the Palio. Here is one I found, but its 40mm lower too.

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16v100bhp · 12th December 2006, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Maybe you can try springs from a Petra diesel. They could be stiffer, otherwise there is not much aftermarket support for the Palio.

Seems to be a good option. I will find out and let you know.

Mpower · 12th December 2006, 23:21

. AG . Resortes de Suspensión .
:: Performans Team ::

here is one more. might have to brush up your portuguese.

kpzen · 12th December 2006, 23:28

Are both the rear tyres scraping ? or only one side?

16v100bhp · 13th December 2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by kpzen

Are both the rear tyres scraping ? or only one side?

That would be both.... almost equally...

yasw_anth · 30th December 2007, 14:33

i have similar problem in my zen. how will the ride quality and handling be if i install spacers at the rear ??

12th December 2006, 00:25	#1 (permalink)
16v100bhp BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 170 View My Garage	Stiffer Coils for my S10 Hi guyz, I had put 15 inch wheels on my palio S10 and the problem now is that the rear wheels are slightly scraping against the fenders. This happens only when there is load at the rear. I was adviced to put stiffer coil springs at the rear. Please let me know if anyone has ever done this on a palio? Since this is not my daily ride i can always sacrifice a little on comfort (for better stability of course) Here are some snaps of my ride. The black marks you see on the insides of the fender are where the paint had peeled off coz of this.

12th December 2006, 06:46	#2 (permalink)
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,035 View My Garage	16v, what profile is your tyre? and what section? I have 205/50 R15s on my Palio 1.2, and I have the same problem. I've now learned to drive in such a way that this doesn't happen when I have a load in the back, but I'm interested in how to get this totally solved too. I haven't had paint peeling off or anything as bad yet, though. Are you running 60 or 55 profiles? That must be why the tyre scrapes so often. From the S10s and Palio 1.6s I'd seen here, the fenders are actually a bit wider than the 1.2 (with the bulges in the fenders), and upto 205s should go in with no problem (unlike the 1.2 which will give trouble with anything over 195s) __________________ *eXcesS!*

12th December 2006, 07:19	#3 (permalink)
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,249 View My Garage	Thats a very nice looking car... Love the stripes... What profile tires are you running?? i think 195/45 should be fair enough for the car.... since this is not your daily ride.... anyways you can try to install the yellow koni's only at the rear... may cost around 20K for a pair... Godfather __________________ I accidentally installed the deer whistles on my car backwards. Now everywhere I go, I'm chased by a herd of deer.

12th December 2006, 09:28	#4 (permalink)
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,164 View My Garage	Nice looking ride 16v100 !!! pls share more pics __________________ -[ " If the ride is more fly, then you must buy. " - Snoop Dogg ]-

12th December 2006, 11:51	#5 (permalink)
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 580 View My Garage	Contact Psycho. He can get you a complete suspension work done for about 15k. __________________ Its like turbo lag. But funny there isn't a turbo.

12th December 2006, 21:44	#9 (permalink)
moralfibre Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back to Pune :-) Posts: 3,165 View My Garage	I find 205's to be an overkill for the Palio. The suspension is already stiff and you want to go stiffer. I would prefer to downsize my tyres for the price. __________________ Ask not what your country can do for you, think of a way you can make them do it!

12th December 2006, 22:35	#10 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,672 View My Garage	Maybe you can try springs from a Petra diesel. They could be stiffer, otherwise there is not much aftermarket support for the Palio. Here is one I found, but its 40mm lower too. NOVITEC ONLINE SHOP 2002 __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys. Last edited by Mpower : 12th December 2006 at 23:07.

12th December 2006, 23:21	#12 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,672 View My Garage	. AG . Resortes de Suspensión . :: Performans Team :: here is one more. might have to brush up your portuguese. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

12th December 2006, 23:28	#13 (permalink)
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Noida Posts: 3,265 View My Garage	Are both the rear tyres scraping ? or only one side? __________________ Prajesh - << will be mostly offline till August >> A true friend is someone who says nice things behind your back...

30th December 2007, 14:33	#15 (permalink)
yasw_anth BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 80 View My Garage	i have similar problem in my zen. how will the ride quality and handling be if i install spacers at the rear ?? __________________ Cheeers Yaswanth :)

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