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Old 17th February 2007, 13:02   #16
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wat do you guys think of the 185/70/14....thats wat comes with the zxi. all i wanna ask is that is the above size not good enough for the vdi considerin its approx 60 kg's more nose heavy.... and wat will be the diff in the grip, ride and fe as compared to the 195/60/15....?????
Guys any input on this??
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Old 17th February 2007, 13:09   #17
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Well between the 2 the mileage wont differ. the 185/70-14 is a decent size. Only if you find the grip lacking with these you should upgrade to the 195/60-15. For everyday driving the 185/70-14 will suffice.

But I think that the mileage will go down when upgrading to 195/60-15 from 165/80-14.

one thing being 30mm increase on each tyre so total contact patch increase is 120mm (6") more.

Secondly the new tyre will generally be a softer compound providing better grip and more sticky types.

Rather than 0.5kmpl i would say 1-1.5kmpl decrease in mileage.
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Old 17th February 2007, 16:51   #18
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Thanx vid6639 The Petrol version does have 185s but grip levels are not that good. With the diesel being much more torquier as well as heavier i think 195s are a must.

What will be the diffrence in ride between 185/70/14 and 195/60/15
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Old 17th February 2007, 16:54   #19
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Congrats BUSA for booking the Vdi. I drove that dream machine and found it quite torquier than the petrol one. I could feel that kick feeling when you try to rip the Suzuki.

When are you getting the delivery? How much time did they quote to you in Mumbai?
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how much does the pete's tuning box costs approx.
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Old 17th February 2007, 17:11   #21
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Yeah, ride quality will differ but not by much. Unless you drive on really bad roads.

For normal roads you wont feel much difference. Only a little harder.

Just remember you lose 1inch of rubber to cushion your ride so it's bound to get a little harder.
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wat do you guys think of the 185/70/14....thats wat comes with the zxi. all i wanna ask is that is the above size not good enough for the vdi considerin its approx 60 kg's more nose heavy.... and wat will be the diff in the grip, ride and fe as compared to the 195/60/15....?????

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Guys any input on this??
FYI, its 75 kgs heavier not 60. An educated guess will say that the suspension will be slightly stiffened else it'll wallow like sinking boat. With that extra weight, the ideal petrol Swift upsize 195/60 R15 will still apply, but you'll need to keep a higher psi of atleast 31 for city and 32 for highways.
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Just drove the VDi. The tyres are definitely sad and not at all reassuring.

The car does feel nose heavy. The suspension on the front has been stiffened.

The brakes were also not as reassuring as the petrol probably due to the extra weight.

You definitely need 185 for better ride and handling. For even better handling get the 195/60-15 but since the suspension on the front is stiffened I think it may be a little harsh.
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Old 17th February 2007, 19:20   #24
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Thanx theFag and vid6639

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When are you getting the delivery? How much time did they quote to you in Mumbai?
Getting the delivery in the next month. They are saying it will take atleast one month as it is with ABS.

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how much does the pete's tuning box costs approx.
Around 33K, but will become lower from the 1st of March, thats what Peter has told me.

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You mean the ride will be a liltle harsh?
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Yup but obviou will become harsh. i found it already has a stiffened front suspension, the rear feels the same but the front is definitely more stiffer than the petrol.

Add to that 15" rims compared to 14" it has to become more stiff.
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Guys, ive had 17's on my swift with 205/40 rubber! Yeah the ride isnt the same as the puny 14's that the swift comes stock with, but to be very honest didnt make much of a difference on delhi roads! As for performance if u do spend money on decent performance alloys which obviously will be higher priced than the taiwanese ones you get here but are quite lighweight. Fuel efficiency i seriously believe depends on how you drive your car! So if you are goin for 15's then go for it its actually the correct upsize! hope this helped!

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Thanx Abix, that really helped. I am more inclined towards 15 inchers, but my other car is a Optra which has excellent ride even on 50 profile rubber, so dont want the Swifts ride to be bad. Would want the best mix of ride and handling. I want such tyres that the Swift should handle better then the 1.6 Palio.

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Busa, as far as rubber goes, i use Hankook's Ventus rubber, its got a very good grip and is noiseless!
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Busa, as far as rubber goes, i use Hankook's Ventus rubber, its got a very good grip and is noiseless!
I got the same rubber, and while its grip is great its not entirely noiseless
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hey is petes tuning box out only for swift vdi?...is it available for the petrol versions and others models of maruti like zen?..
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