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Old 9th March 2007, 19:56   #31
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Please post the pics SOON otherwise one whole page of the thread will be dedicated to members asking you to post the pics


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Old 10th March 2007, 01:00   #32
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chetanhanda - ive read here that plugs and wires do improve performance.. why cant they be called a performance mod?

I dont know where you read what..? but Im sure you didnt read the whole thing.

on high compression, very hi revving stressed out engines running hi octane gas may show the benefits of such mods ..when you are going to operate above factory/stock engine RPM range and need a more powerful aftermarket ignition system to give you the power at higer ranges not possible with stock factory ignition system. It is at this stage when you need the wires to keep up with your extra powerful ignition system...

dude cmon,dont go "riceboy" on me now we are talking of a bone stock civic engine adapted to run on indian pump gas 84/87 octane...dont expect any noticeable gain...
with just a free flow, filter and plugs on a stock civic the regular plugs are good enough..

for example ..similarly applying your logic ..One could say large injectors are a performance mod, agreed...but in what context ? but they make sense in case of a crazily modded engine ..e.g when you have maxed out your IDC above 80% approx , then in this case this mod will help.
so it is ok to say it is a performance mod but in what context ?

performance mods/addons make sense at different levels of tune, you cant just put wires and plugs on a factory spec honda civic and say its a performance mod.. if you think so then think of RICE!!
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Old 10th March 2007, 01:04   #33
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Nitrox,
The article given by you is very interesting and informative..
But the problem is that the 7-8 whp increase in power is aprrox about 12 bhp at crank and also these are figure for high compression 11:1 engines which are US spec..
The indian version civics have compression ratios reduced to approx 9:1 so the actual gain from just headers and FF exhaust is not gonna be more than 4-5 bhp at crank unless the chip is remapped, porting and polishing done with high lift cams and the works...
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Old 10th March 2007, 03:28   #34
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exactly my point bro,25hp on stock indian civic without more work done..its impossible for a 25hp gain to wheel
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Old 10th March 2007, 09:18   #35
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please enlighten me with the real prices of these? viper?

Hi Akshay,

Assuming he would be using the best brands available in India would work out to Rs30k+. Manson has some good cheap sources so if interested you can contact him.

As regards the gains dont expect anything more than a 10-12% gain on the higher side.

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Please mention the best brands available for us viper and the break up thanx..
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Old 10th March 2007, 10:27   #37
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Hi Nitroxx,

For someone who is from the same trade and a expert at tuning in Mumbai I dont think you should be asking these questions since you already know the answers. As regards the break up I dont discuss work on the forum.




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Please mention the best brands available for us viper and the break up thanx..
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Hey

guys pics on behalf of scary skulls.........


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Here are some mods already on the car................

Check the for I.C.E...
Dudes check my audio on civic

2 way pioneer component x 2 crossovers model -TS-C160R
460 watt pioneer ovals with built in crossovers TS-c6991
4ch pioneer amp with high input-----------------?
pioneer mono amp model----------------------D510
2 DVC subs pioneer 1000 W ------------------TS-W126C DVC
capacitator 1.2 farad-------------------------BOSS

65 amp battery Amaron hi life pro(stock 45 amp named as standard brand)
better than opitma for sure in performance, cranking and pocket..

wiring worth RS 7800 all clips no tape jugads all fuses....

dynamant extreme all four doors
boot full of glass wool and some material suggested by the friend...
done only in 1 and half day...



some more mods.............

.Xenon fog lights
2.blue led parking
3.amaron high life pro battery 65 AMP
4.blue ambient lights
5.illuminated doors plates
6.led underbody glow lights
7.led blue license plates light
8.leather seat covers
9.17inch plati rims
10.eagle F1 225\45R17
11.masked tail lights
12.battery stablizer
13.full all single piece 50% light grey film or tints
14.In boot blue led lights

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Assuming he would be using the best brands available in India would work out to Rs30k+.
could you please mention what brands would these be?

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Manson has some good cheap sources so if interested you can contact him.
sorry to disappoint, but i'm not a tuner. But 'good and cheap' being the keywords above, i would be more than happy to direct you to people i know

manson.

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Hi , Now does your car touch/scrab on any speed breaker with these tyres .eagle F1 225\45R17?

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Hasnt done till now atleast.

Anyways. Yesterday morning, installed a few parts from the previous zen(sold now)
Fuel energizer and an intake charger. Torque has improved in the midrange.
It's auto transmission and certain stretches were wheels didnt spin earlier on sudden throttle openings are spinning little bit now.

Exhaust End Can changed now for a more muscular(but not loud) sound.
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The indian version civics have compression ratios reduced to approx 9:1 so the actual gain from just headers and FF exhaust is not gonna be more than 4-5 bhp at crank unless the chip is remapped, porting and polishing done with high lift cams and the works...
Bhushan - another problem is that the R18 engine which is in the Indian Civic has its headers integrated in such a way that there is no way to put on aftermarket headers. (Remember the conversation yesterday with Jitu!!)

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Fuel energizer and an intake charger.
Ahhh.... Mr. Bhasin's goods I believe!
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Fuel energizer and an intake charger. Torque has improved in the midrange.
hi, whats an intake charger ?
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yeah ishan the headers are built into the cylinder heaD and blah blah..honda really scr*wd up the tuning scene with this engine infact even the cold air intake doesnt give you any gains I've got a friend on 8thcivic.com who showed a 1 hp increase from an K&N apollo filter on the dyno.Infact the best one on the market for the r18 IS THE Injen Cold air intake system.heres a thread on the DIY for installation if ones getting it.
DIY: Injen CAI install on R18 (lots of pics) - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum
while youre at it check this lady driven 7 sec honda civic..yes I said 7 secs.


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