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Old 13th May 2007, 13:42   #31
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RS front bumper and wheels does not an RS make! And I'm really not trying to make a pseudo RS either, but when a great deal on great wheels comes your way, you don't turn it back! And yes, I want better brakes. Whether I source them from an RS or not is yet to be seen.

P.s. Go play on your shut up thread and leave this thread for the serious stuff please.

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Old 13th May 2007, 14:11   #32
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Yup, I have RS wheels, so the bigger brakes will not be a problem. Currently checking out some options online vs getting the OE RS brakes here. Knowing Skoda prices, it would probably be more economical to get Brembo's or EBC discs!
Skoda prices are very high if you buy from dealership. Parts which cost 50K+ in the dealership can be had for <20K in open market. I am not talking about different brand but same brand and make. For example the genuine Bosch alternator costs 1/3 of dealership price if you buy from outside.
So hunt for OE parts, outside of dealerships.
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Old 14th May 2007, 00:53   #33
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Rtech,
Sorry for the late reply.. Cudnt log onto the net for 2 dayss...
To answer some of your questions.

Cross Drilling and Slotting of Standard rotors is a complete no no..
Reasons:
1) The vented cross-sectional design of a drilled rotor is complete different from that of a solid rotor.. so by during cross drilling a solid rotor, you might end up drilling any one of the flanges of the cooling vents, which will end up weakening the rotor
2) The material composition of Solid Rotors differs from that of a high performance cross drilled and slotted rotor. Also the vent design for cooling is different.

Upgrading:
1) RS front rotors are 288X25 and not 312x25... 312 come on the Audi TT and thats reason why I had no problems changing to TAROX cross drilled and Slotted rotors.
People who have upgraded to 312 in the RS had to change the caliper mount also.
2) You can go for the complete upgrade kit from TAROX either a 288 or a 312 coz anywhich way for both you will have to change the caliper mount.
3) Costing of Rotors is as follows
a. Zimmermann Rotors 288mm front – Rs.18000/-
b. Zimmermann Rotors uprated to 312mm - Rs.30000/-
c. Tarox Rotors front set - Rs.33500/-
d. Tarox Rotors uprated to 312mm - Rs.46000/-
e. Pagid pads front - Rs.9800/-
f. Tarox brake pads - Rs.12850/-

I dont have the costing for the complete kit which will include the bigger size Caliper mounts.
4) 10 pot TAROX brake Kit is a whopping Rs. 1,85,000/-

Best if that you contact/PM Peter aka Turboindia for any bolt on solutions for VAG cars..
He will also be in a better position to advice you about the rear braking system.
Hope the information was helpful..
Cheersssss

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Old 14th May 2007, 12:31   #34
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Also consider that upgrading brakes is not a one-time cost. Replacing pads / maintainence on upgraded brakes will cost more than the same on regular brakes.
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Old 14th May 2007, 12:52   #35
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how much of a difference do pads make ? brembo pads cost around 12000
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Old 14th May 2007, 13:53   #36
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OE RS brakes seems the best fit for the tight budget and that too if something can be sourced from people who have replaced them for bigger set ups.
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Old 14th May 2007, 18:37   #37
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Done some further research into this. Spoke to Evo and Pete, both of whom have good experience with VAG.

The problems with the RS brakes is that I would need a lot more than just the rotors. I would need to change the spindle and associated parts to those of the RS if I want to fit them. Would also need the change the calipers. All this would make it an extremely costly option and simply put, the costs would simply outweigh the benefits.

So, I am now looking at a direct bolt on rotor (280mm) along with better brake pads. Reading on the Skoda and other VAG forums and it seems that Tarox do have quite a following. Seems their stuff is clearly good! Ofcourse, they also have easy access to the VAG parts bin there, and at reasonable prices, so inter-model conversions are the best value out there.

Still looking around at whats out there and will update once I figure things out.
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Sell it and buy a good used RS - might be cheaper?
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ROTFLMAO! Ajmat, what you say might actually be true! But then I'd be thinking of which brakes to put on the RS! So back in the same boat!
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RS brakes pretty well, actually. So you're good to go.
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Any idea if brembo brake kits are available for Cedia?
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Just a quick update EBC brake pads are now available in India for the following cars:

Ultimax Replacement Pads
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Esteem Front
Gypsy Front
M800
OHC 1.5
Skoda
Mitsubishi Lancer CE Front

Green Pads
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Esteem
Alto
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Accent/Getz
Elantra Front
Skoda RS Front & Rear
Superb Front & Rear
Mitsubishi Lancer


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Any idea if brembo brake kits are available for Cedia?
Not the big brake kits, but I'm working on a custom combo for a couple of cars, and the Cedia is among them.
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Just a quick update EBC brake pads are now available in India for the following cars:
Keshav, I'm interested in the brake pads for my esteem. Couple of Q's :

1. What is the cost and can it be fitted without any mod's to the existing brake setup? How would this compare to the stock pads in terms of life of the pad's, braking efficiency etc.

2. What about the rear brakes? Anything available for rear brakes? Wouldnt the brake bias change since the front wheels brake better? How can this be compensated?
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1. What is the cost and can it be fitted without any mod's to the existing brake setup? How would this compare to the stock pads in terms of life of the pad's, braking efficiency etc.
I have the EBC Greenstuff pads fitted on my Lancer. They cost around 9k for Lancers, dunno about Esteems.
Great stopping power, haven't seen any appreciable brake dust. Running them in doesn't take too long either.
They are miles ahead of the stock Lancer brakes in terms of braking efficiency, but I believe the life is a tad less.
Overall, highly recommended.

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2. What about the rear brakes? Anything available for rear brakes? Wouldnt the brake bias change since the front wheels brake better? How can this be compensated?
From my experience, brake bias should not be an issue. Haven't experienced any such problems.
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