Immobilizer - Worth it?? - Page 2 - Team-BHP

babureddy · 27th June 2007, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainak

@babureddy
i had the immo malfuntioning with my 1.3 OHC. It was night time. So had to call up a friend who has mastery oer these issues. He suggested me all ways. Including the vale mode. No avail. Engine used to start, immo came into action and died. Finally had to cut power to the security system from battery and what not !

hey now you are scaring me, but since i have already ordered it...i will search for all the possible options to get through it in case of a failure...anyway thanks for the reply...

Nimz · 27th June 2007, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainak

@babureddy
i had the immo malfuntioning with my 1.3 OHC. It was night time. So had to call up a friend who has mastery oer these issues. He suggested me all ways. Including the vale mode. No avail. Engine used to start, immo came into action and died. Finally had to cut power to the security system from battery and what not !

Which brand of Immos did you have mainak on your OHC?

mainak · 27th June 2007, 16:45

@nimz
i had xenos firewall

@babureddy
maybe it was just my badluck. mayb if you use tapered connectors and proper wiring you wont face troubles.

dadu · 27th June 2007, 17:24

I think mainak has faced a faulty system. Maruti is coming out with company fitted immobilizers for its cars and ICICI is giving a rebate of Rs500 on its insurance premium for cars with Immobilizers.

Immobilizer is a mandatory anti-theft device in advanced car markets like Europe and Australia. Transport Canada has made it mandatory that all new cars, light trucks, and SUVs are required to be equipped with an electronic immobilizer as of September 2007.

Statistics from these countries show a decrease in the Car thefts over the previous years, after it is made mandatory.

Nimz · 27th June 2007, 17:45

@babureddy - Even I have ordered an Autocop one with Immobs.

Would it have been better to go with the base autocop and get a steering lock / gear lock as suggested by Mainak. Even a gear lock serves the same funtion and prevents thief from driving away. So is an immob more advantageous?

Thanks
Nimz

mainak · 27th June 2007, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimz

@babureddy - Even I have ordered an Autocop one with Immobs.

Would it have been better to go with the base autocop and get a steering lock / gear lock as suggested by Mainak. Even a gear lock serves the same funtion and prevents thief from driving away. So is an immob more advantageous?

Thanks
Nimz

hey bro dont think much coz u hv already got it right

so now buy a gear lock as well...double the security. and yeah make sure that the installation is done before your eyes. Ensure tapred connectors. Just avoid taping.

Nimz · 27th June 2007, 23:58

Ordered it!! Well.. I'll take that and if it creates probs will post it for the benefit of other bhpians.

Will take theMag;s number in case am stuck somewhere

Cheers
Nimz

mainak · 28th June 2007, 08:47

naah ! take precautions and surely you will be allright

and totally forgot congrats on your spark..have fun and enjoy your drive..

CrAzY dRiVeR · 28th June 2007, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainak

naah ! take precautions and surely you will be allright

and totally forgot congrats on your spark..have fun and enjoy your drive..

Got the car?

Congrats!

Nimz · 28th June 2007, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Got the car?

Congrats!

Getting it tomorrow.

As per dealer it should have gone for registration today

VMG · 7th May 2008, 16:52

What is immobilizer?
Immobilizer feature is in Cedia or not?

Sales guy said I can not make a duplicate key. There is a key number attached for every key. If I need a duplicate key, I should go to their sales/service office and order/get one with the key no.
I think this is Immobilizer. Am I correct or missing something?

anupmathur · 7th May 2008, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by VMG

What is immobilizer?
Immobilizer feature is in Cedia or not?

Sales guy said I can not make a duplicate key.

My Maruti sales guy said the same thing.
So I promptly went and got a duplicate key made.
The ignition would come on with this duplicate but the car (WagonR) would refuse to start. self starter works, engine turns over but does not fire.
A good look at the meter cluster and I could see a padlock icon flashing. This did not happen with the original key.
Maruti call it the iCATS system - Intelligent Car Anti-theft System.

trrk · 7th May 2008, 17:23

Hi,

> Maruti call it the iCATS system - Intelligent Car Anti-theft System.

The key fob contains a chip and a transmitter. The main unit would be under the dashboard. Unless the main unit gives the transmitted signal and is the correct one, it would lock the fuel injection system and your car won't start.

You can make the duplicate of the key part, but the rest cannot be duplicated locally.

I am not sure about the Cedia, but if the dealer has said that a duplicate won't work, maybe it has a similar system.

There are such ssytems available separately which can be fixed in any car in addition to or instead of a central locking system.

diabloo · 7th May 2008, 17:42

Thats a good info. Which cars have this mechanism?

Quote:

Originally Posted by trrk

The key fob contains a chip and a transmitter. The main unit would be under the dashboard. Unless the main unit gives the transmitted signal and is the correct one, it would lock the fuel injection system and your car won't start.

trrk · 7th May 2008, 17:52

Hi,

> Thats a good info. Which cars have this mechanism?

Right now, all Marutis come with this system. If I remember correctly, the Innova has it.

I am not sure about what other cars come with this factory fitted.

7th May 2008, 16:52	#26 (permalink)
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 164	Immobilizer for Cedia What is immobilizer? Immobilizer feature is in Cedia or not? Sales guy said I can not make a duplicate key. There is a key number attached for every key. If I need a duplicate key, I should go to their sales/service office and order/get one with the key no. I think this is Immobilizer. Am I correct or missing something?

7th May 2008, 17:23	#28 (permalink)
trrk BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 320	Hi, > Maruti call it the iCATS system - Intelligent Car Anti-theft System. The key fob contains a chip and a transmitter. The main unit would be under the dashboard. Unless the main unit gives the transmitted signal and is the correct one, it would lock the fuel injection system and your car won't start. You can make the duplicate of the key part, but the rest cannot be duplicated locally. I am not sure about the Cedia, but if the dealer has said that a duplicate won't work, maybe it has a similar system. There are such ssytems available separately which can be fixed in any car in addition to or instead of a central locking system. __________________ Rajesh -Marina LS, Oct 05, 43100 (43578) kms, 13.93 kpl -City CVT, Sep 07, 14301 kms, 13.19 kpl

7th May 2008, 17:52	#30 (permalink)
trrk BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 320	Hi, > Thats a good info. Which cars have this mechanism? Right now, all Marutis come with this system. If I remember correctly, the Innova has it. I am not sure about what other cars come with this factory fitted. __________________ Rajesh -Marina LS, Oct 05, 43100 (43578) kms, 13.93 kpl -City CVT, Sep 07, 14301 kms, 13.19 kpl

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27th June 2007, 16:45	#18 (permalink)
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90	@nimz i had xenos firewall @babureddy maybe it was just my badluck. mayb if you use tapered connectors and proper wiring you wont face troubles.

27th June 2007, 17:24	#19 (permalink)
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,896 View My Garage	I think mainak has faced a faulty system. Maruti is coming out with company fitted immobilizers for its cars and ICICI is giving a rebate of Rs500 on its insurance premium for cars with Immobilizers. Immobilizer is a mandatory anti-theft device in advanced car markets like Europe and Australia. Transport Canada has made it mandatory that all new cars, light trucks, and SUVs are required to be equipped with an electronic immobilizer as of September 2007. Statistics from these countries show a decrease in the Car thefts over the previous years, after it is made mandatory.

27th June 2007, 17:45	#20 (permalink)
Nimz BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 357 View My Garage	@babureddy - Even I have ordered an Autocop one with Immobs. Would it have been better to go with the base autocop and get a steering lock / gear lock as suggested by Mainak. Even a gear lock serves the same funtion and prevents thief from driving away. So is an immob more advantageous? Thanks Nimz

27th June 2007, 23:58	#22 (permalink)
Nimz BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 357 View My Garage	Ordered it!! Well.. I'll take that and if it creates probs will post it for the benefit of other bhpians. Will take theMag;s number in case am stuck somewhere Cheers Nimz

28th June 2007, 08:47	#23 (permalink)
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90	naah ! take precautions and surely you will be allright and totally forgot congrats on your spark..have fun and enjoy your drive..