130 BHP Palio 1.2 - A Dream For me! - Team-BHP

moralfibre · 31st July 2007, 11:30

Guys I was going through an interesting mod job on a Fiat Panda done by Abarth after their return to business. They produced two interesting cars one is the Grande Punto Scorpion and a Fiat Panda KIT. More about this can be read here:

Return of the Scorpion

I stumbled upon the spec sheet of the kitted Panda and something interesting struck me. The specs of the engine tuned to 130 BHP is exactly the same as the Palio 1.2 sold in the Indian market. See the PDF in the link below for details:

Panda 1.2

Palio 1.2 Indian specs

So much from a 1.2 engine! I am impressed. Only difference is Transmission, Suspension?, Brakes, Wheels, Car Body.

Last I heard that a 1.2 was sold for a meager Rs. 80,000 in good shape and this isn't a myth. A team-bhpian from Pune sold his non-PS car for that price.

Anyone interested in Palio 1.2 mods to make a 1.6 beater? This sure will be fun without FI and revving to 7,800 RPM.

WhiteKnight · 31st July 2007, 11:37

Interesting!

Let's forget about Transmission, Suspension?, Brakes etc. But no info on the engine mods?

On second thought, why 1.2? If anyone is planning plan it on 1.6. Hell, no info on what they have done to the engine.

theMAG · 31st July 2007, 11:37

Someone familiar with Fiats in India should give a serious thought abt opening a Fiat Palio-specific modding/tuning business.

madan80 · 31st July 2007, 11:48

Wont the gear ratio's also be different? If it needs to be able to pull 130Bhp.

I am sure game to convert my 1.2...

karlosdeville · 31st July 2007, 11:53

Kiran, theres a Palio 1.2 being broken in chor bazaar as we speak. grab it!

deepakhon · 31st July 2007, 12:03

Hmm. Interesting! 130 horses from a 1.2 litre 8 valve engine is really impressive. If you ask me, Fiat should re badge itself as Abarth in India

nitrous · 31st July 2007, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mf

Anyone interested in Palio 1.2 mods to make a 1.6 beater? This sure will be fun without FI and revving to 7,800 RPM.

The spares will bleed the modder dry,dude.
Thats the only reason japs are preferred while modding.

moralfibre · 31st July 2007, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

The spares will bleed the modder dry,dude.
Thats the only reason japs are preferred while modding.

Why NOS anna? What would be expensive? Can you elaborate please.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 31st July 2007, 14:11

Brings us to the inevitable question in India.
"mileage kya hai bhai?"

@Moralfibre? 1.2 and 1.6 engines are similar, right? Can't the same be done to the 1.6?

moralfibre · 31st July 2007, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Brings us to the inevitable question in India.
"mileage kya hai bhai?"

Very good question. Will someone help me hang crazy driver upside down please!

Quote:

@Moralfibre? 1.2 and 1.6 engines are similar, right? Can't the same be done to the 1.6?

They are NOT at all similar. See the specs in the first link for details of a 1.2 and then search on the page or my gallery for 1.6 specs.

esteem_lover · 31st July 2007, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by moralfibre

So much from a 1.2 engine! I am impressed. Only difference is Transmission, Suspension?, Brakes, Wheels, Car Body.

I think the only similarity is the engine.

jkdas · 31st July 2007, 21:01

Panda again! Saw a youtube movie of Panda AWD and Discover ! wow! 10k VS 60k off roading!

vabs78 · 31st July 2007, 23:45

I think the first thing you will need is a stand alone ECU. And the internals which can stand 7000+ rpm.

P.S. - I am not an expert or even close to one. I am just guessing.

moralfibre · 1st August 2007, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

I think the only similarity is the engine.

Ha ha ha ha yup you are right. But the engine + transmission should be a good start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Panda again! Saw a youtube movie of Panda AWD and Discover ! wow! 10k VS 60k off roading!

Its there on my signature.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vabs78

I think the first thing you will need is a stand alone ECU. And the internals which can stand 7000+ rpm.

P.S. - I am not an expert or even close to one. I am just guessing.

Correct. You were in automobile field, weren't you?

vabs78 · 1st August 2007, 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Correct. You were in automobile field, weren't you?

Well... Its little complicated

. I am a mechanical engineer but working in IT for nearly 5 yrs. But the software I am working on is a diagnostic software for Cummins diesel engines. So you can say I am still pretty close to automobile field.

31st July 2007, 11:30	#1 (permalink)
moralfibre Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnyvale CA. Posts: 3,236 View My Garage	130 BHP Palio 1.2 - A Dream For me! Guys I was going through an interesting mod job on a Fiat Panda done by Abarth after their return to business. They produced two interesting cars one is the Grande Punto Scorpion and a Fiat Panda KIT. More about this can be read here: Return of the Scorpion I stumbled upon the spec sheet of the kitted Panda and something interesting struck me. The specs of the engine tuned to 130 BHP is exactly the same as the Palio 1.2 sold in the Indian market. See the PDF in the link below for details: Panda 1.2 Palio 1.2 Indian specs So much from a 1.2 engine! I am impressed. Only difference is Transmission, Suspension?, Brakes, Wheels, Car Body. Last I heard that a 1.2 was sold for a meager Rs. 80,000 in good shape and this isn't a myth. A team-bhpian from Pune sold his non-PS car for that price. Anyone interested in Palio 1.2 mods to make a 1.6 beater? This sure will be fun without FI and revving to 7,800 RPM. __________________ Ask not what your country can do for you, think of a way you can make them do it!

31st July 2007, 11:37	#2 (permalink)
WhiteKnight BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 492 View My Garage	Interesting! Let's forget about Transmission, Suspension?, Brakes etc. But no info on the engine mods? On second thought, why 1.2? If anyone is planning plan it on 1.6. Hell, no info on what they have done to the engine. __________________ "When the going gets TOUGH.....Great ones PARTY"

31st July 2007, 11:37	#3 (permalink)
theMAG Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 3,430 View My Garage	Someone familiar with Fiats in India should give a serious thought abt opening a Fiat Palio-specific modding/tuning business. __________________ If you lose your temper, you’ve lost the argument

31st July 2007, 11:48	#4 (permalink)
madan80 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 835 View My Garage	Wont the gear ratio's also be different? If it needs to be able to pull 130Bhp. I am sure game to convert my 1.2... __________________ Finally - Chennai's English music radio station- 104.8FM - Im lovin IT! __________________ 2002 Lancer \| 2006 Palio

31st July 2007, 11:53	#5 (permalink)
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 2,715 View My Garage	Kiran, theres a Palio 1.2 being broken in chor bazaar as we speak. grab it! __________________ ( O \ \| / O )

31st July 2007, 12:03	#6 (permalink)
deepakhon BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 891	Hmm. Interesting! 130 horses from a 1.2 litre 8 valve engine is really impressive. If you ask me, Fiat should re badge itself as Abarth in India __________________ Deepak Honnalli.

31st July 2007, 14:11	#9 (permalink)
CrAzY dRiVeR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 3,011 View My Garage	Brings us to the inevitable question in India. "mileage kya hai bhai?" @Moralfibre? 1.2 and 1.6 engines are similar, right? Can't the same be done to the 1.6? __________________ I'm far from perfect. I hope i can improve. Thats why i'm here!

31st July 2007, 21:01	#12 (permalink)
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 5,146 View My Garage	Panda again! Saw a youtube movie of Panda AWD and Discover ! wow! 10k VS 60k off roading! __________________ "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

31st July 2007, 23:45	#13 (permalink)
vabs78 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pune, India Posts: 461 View My Garage	I think the first thing you will need is a stand alone ECU. And the internals which can stand 7000+ rpm. P.S. - I am not an expert or even close to one. I am just guessing. __________________ If everything seems under control, you are not going fast enough!

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