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Old 13th March 2009, 16:36   #301
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1. Replace filter, let it grow on you (give car+driver some time)
2. Go in for the Pete's box, again give car+driver some time.
3. Add in Synthetic oil.
I think you are spot on, since car is in cochin fitting and servicing will be easy since access to Pete's directly.

Point 3 you put in the right spec synthetic, Mobil Delvac 1 is the right synthetic upgrade, i guess rippergeo has the right contacts in Cochin to guide you.
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Old 13th March 2009, 18:11   #302
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Thanks Jaggu.

I've posted a query at Pete's site.
Guess what, I got a call in less than 30mins that too from Peter himself.

He explained about the tuning box, why a replacement filter is recommended and was kind enough to answer all my questions.

He even offered a "test drive' for the box that too in my dad's Swift.
Peter also confirmed that the air filter can be serviced/cleaned every 5k kms free of cost at their place in cochin.

That is just wonderful.

Planning to do the "test" during my next visit home in April.
Already started saving for the Box and air filter
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Guys, Not sure if this is the right place to ask this.. but here it is anyway.


I'm planning to spice up my dad's swift in the near future.
Car is now 8 months old with around 12K on the odo

Plans :

1. Replacement filter (CAI, Conical whatever.. ?)
2. Pete's tuning box.
3. Strut Braces. (Is it required ?)

Questions :

1. Is it really required to change the Stock air filter if you are going in for pete's ? (Which one ? My dad loves cars and gets it serviced on time and all. However he is no do-it-yourself guy in case of car, so cleaning filter and stuff needs to be done by service guys and this is a major factor.)

2. The car is in cochin, where to get it fixed ? (Tuning box, filter and stuff)
(Again, hope this will not mess up the warranty and stuff, service center is Popular, I don't think dad will remove this before each service)

3. After all this is it required to go for Synthetic Oil ?
(Well this can be done and was suggested by the service center guy during 1st service, I still fail to get the logic of doing that on a relatively new engine anyway it was not done.)

My Thoughts :

1. Replace filter, let it grow on you (give car+driver some time)
2. Go in for the Pete's box, again give car+driver some time.
3. Add in Synthetic oil.

Please feel free to add your comments and correct me where ever applicable + expected prices + where to get it from + your valuable experience with the products in question.
I'd say, go the whole hog, and do the filter and the box together.
I did it in the reverse order- box first, then scrounged together money for the CAI a week later.
CAI or atleast, stock replacement is must. I vote for CAI
Without the extra air, the car will rev less, smoke more and accelerate less(but still will be substantially quicker than unpete'd car)

Synthetic oil, I'm not so sure about. still in 2 minds. currently changing Delvac MX every 5k.

In case you need the filter cleaned, give pete's office a call a few hours ahead of time and turn up.
Have PMed you on what to do about MASS

Strut braces-not sure yet.
I'm planning on anti roll bars and then if necessary-konis/bilsteins
Peter has neuspeed anti roll bars. Let me know if you get around to trialling them. i plan to do so after my finances recover a bit.

give us cochin bhpians a shout when you're in town.

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Old 13th March 2009, 19:05   #304
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Thanks rippergeo.

Oil change every 5k ?
I thought of doing the same initially, but the service guys (MASS and the local guys) both said its not really required.

Yeah I get what you mean, so planning for box+filter (CAI not sure.. seems a bit more money but just might do it.)

Test drive first.

Next trip home on 9th April. Usually don't get time even to sit home.
But will ping for sure (still to get into the chennai team-bhp crowd yet he he)

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Thanks rippergeo.


Test drive first.

Next trip home on 9th April. Usually don't get time even to sit home.
But will ping for sure (still to get into the chennai team-bhp crowd yet he he)
Peter knows what he's doing. its like a drug dealer giving free samples to kids.
Once you drive around with it for a few days, you'll be ready to beg, borrow steal to make the money and buy it.
I've seen it happen with my brother and his Endeavour. 1week with the box, and when the time came to return the box....chequebook came out, box stayed in
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Peter knows what he's doing. its like a drug dealer giving free samples to kids.
chequebook came out, box stayed in

don't scare me man.
All I have now is 50% of the amount required.
In April I expect to do a lot of driving around, that seals my fate so to speak.
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Old 16th April 2009, 23:24   #307
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Ok..enough is enough!! I have read a lot about Pete's. Now I want to go for it, but before that I want to test drive a peted Swfit diesel.

Can anyone in Bangalore give me a test drive of Peted Swift?

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Old 14th July 2009, 04:14   #308
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what is the maximum power that can be churned out of the swift diesel's engine in pete's showrooms?
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My take on ECU upgrade with Tuning Box.

If it was so good for the car why wouldn't auto companies (Maruti, tata et al) do the same kind of tuning to their base ECU. This is because other components of car - drive train, suspension, axle, wheels etc are designed to take up the load which the current tuning provides and not designed for the additional load the Petes or any other external tuning would provide. If an external tuning device is added then the effects of the same is not evident right from the word go but slowly one would get into issues like -

1. Drive train issue like gear tooth breakage
2. Faster Clutch wear out
3. Bearing damage
4. suspension issues
etc. etc. etc.

IMHO - if one needs a more powerful car then it is best buy one which is designed as such by the manufacturer and not add on Aftermarket enhancers. It is like taking steroids and running an 100 M dash at the Olympics.
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I was just about to raise a question on this topic and guess what Diesel Fan you have already answered my question. So we should indeed expect to see issues pop up in the long run.

My main concern was how the gearbox would be able to manage the extra torque when a tuning box is added.
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Hi, it’s my first post on Team-BHP.

I’m installing a Pete's Box in My Swift VDI. Had two doubts I wanted cleared before installing it.

1. The dealer suggested I just put the replacement Green Cotton Filter and not the entire induction kit. Would I get the same or similar results?

2. I am running on Yokohama Aspect 185/65/R14 tires. Agreed these tires are not made for performance but comfort, would they do if the car were being driven carefully and responsibly. (Only enjoy the box on highway runs)

Thanks for the help.

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Hi, itís my first post on Team-BHP.

Iím installing a Pete's Box in My Swift VDI. Had two doubts I wanted cleared before installing it.

1. The dealer suggested I just put the replacement Green Cotton Filter and not the entire induction kit. Would I get the same or similar results?

2. I am running on Yokohama Aspect 185/65/R14 tires. Agreed these tires are not made for performance but comfort, would they do if the car were being driven carefully and responsibly. (Only enjoy the box on highway runs)

Thanks for the help.
The box works best with the Green wind and the dynamisation kit. cold air makes a big difference. the stock intake is already a cold air intake and is possibly the best location for the intake, but, I dont know if the stock replacement filter going to give you the surface area or the air flow that a conical filter gives.

disadvantages to the conical filter- the depth of floodwaters you can cross will come down by a foot, because the intake is lower.
what i do is take away the CAI pipe AKA the dynamisation kit, during monsoons, thereby giving me a hot air intake(but ambient temps are lower in monsoon season anyway) that prevents hydrolock/blown engine during flooding.

The size of the tyres you're using should be 185/75/r14(you said 185/65).
thats what i used for 1.5 years with the box, before upgrading to my present 205/55/r15(which is overkill)

whether those tyres are enough, depends on the tyres condition, the particular brand, your driving style,weather and road conditions.
but broadly speaking, yeah those tyres should be fine if you drive responsibly.
Having ABS is good too.

If at some point you feel the brakes are not doing enough to slow you down, see if you can find tarox G88 rotors. they are expensive and murder your brake pads, but they keep you alive
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Thank You Rippergeo for clearing me doubts.

I should Have the Pete's Box installed by the end of this month.

And I will definately look into the Tarox G88 rotors.

Thanks Again.
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Busa,

Sorry all for the constant questions.

I read in this thread that you did not loose your warranty when u installed the Wind induction kit.

I spoke to Sah & Sanghi Mumbai about my warranty, they say there is no problems with a replacement filter, but I will loose my warranty if i change the induction kit.

Explanation from Sah & Sanghi: The Stock filter box has sensors in it (Only in Diesel), changing the induction would in turn mean messing with the electricals.

Could anyone please give me a better explanation for this, as the Work Shop guy was quite vague about all this? (If he is just arguing pointlessly then I will take it up with them.)

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They are talking about air map sensor and this can be retained while going for aftermarket kits. But i really doubt the after market kits wrt CAI, as long as its inside the engine bay, air will be HOT. Unless someone comes out with a proper CAI which feeds air from outside, but safely keeping out the water.
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