Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories

Modifications & Accessories Engine swaps, forced induction, tyre upgrades, free flow exhausts; it's all in here!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10th September 2007, 17:15   #1 (permalink)
BHPian
 
invincible7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 275
Default Esteem - Carbs to FI

Want to know how good is the idea of getting a carburated esteem converted into a FI setup.. what should be kept in mind and also what should be the cost involved ideally..
invincible7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2007, 21:14   #2 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 138
Default

Wish I could that, but found out that it would be a messy upgrade, instead you can sell of the car go for a 2000&up MPFI models, they might available for 1.75 upwards.
__________________
Regards,
Bruce

_______________________________________
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you!
bruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2007, 21:16   #3 (permalink)
BHPian
 
pawan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: auckland, new zealand
Posts: 827
Default

you would need ecu, wiring ,harness, sensors, injectors.
__________________
go big or go home
pawan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2007, 21:18   #4 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jalandhar
Posts: 48
Default Hi

Intake maniflod and throttle body too.......or maybe u need to replace the head i dun know bout that and the headers too
archerdyal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2007, 23:11   #5 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: goa
Posts: 993
Default

you can use parts from maruti stable for the sensors, pump,manifold and get a good ecu[programmable].
If you are DIY guy than go ahead. there will be some places you'll be stuck for some time, but it can be done.
dinar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th September 2007, 23:53   #6 (permalink)
BHPian
 
rohan_fonseca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Panaji
Posts: 882
Default

You will require a 16v head as well. Also will it be possible to retrofit the crank position sensor, speed sensor etc?
rohan_fonseca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2007, 17:41   #7 (permalink)
BHPian
 
rdkarthik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: bangalore
Posts: 212
Default

Its a simple straight forward job.

A complete mpfi esteem engine, ecu, wiring and instrument cluster should cost you anywhere from 50k to 80k. Its a bolt on to your carb esteem.

If you cant source out orignal ECU and/or wiring, you can plug in an aftermarket stndalone ECU to get you going.
rdkarthik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2007, 19:27   #8 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 138
Default

Karthik,
So would be a easy job to do?
__________________
Regards,
Bruce

_______________________________________
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you!
bruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2007, 21:14   #9 (permalink)
BHPian
 
flipsyde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chennai
Posts: 476
Default

i had similar transplant ideas for my m-1000. but in the end the numbers just dont make sense.

even if i did spend 80k on the install i'd be left with the age old interiors, no power windows, no power steering, an RC book which says m-1000 and sleepless nights wondering if there was a glitch in the whole install and whether it was as good as a mpfi esteem.

unless your senti about this esteem i suggest you chuck it out and grab yourself a post 2000 mpfi model. seems like a safer bet in many ways.
__________________
An architect's most useful tools are an eraser at the drafting board, and a wrecking bar at the site - Frank Lloyd Wright
flipsyde is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 01:34   #10 (permalink)
BHPian
 
rohan_fonseca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Panaji
Posts: 882
Default

Karthik what are the sensors that would be required with a standalone?
rohan_fonseca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 01:37   #11 (permalink)
Team-BHP Support
 
Mpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: US/B'lore
Posts: 5,801
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdkarthik View Post
Its a simple straight forward job.

A complete mpfi esteem engine, ecu, wiring and instrument cluster should cost you anywhere from 50k to 80k. Its a bolt on to your carb esteem.

If you cant source out orignal ECU and/or wiring, you can plug in an aftermarket stndalone ECU to get you going.
He wants to keep his old 8V engine and just replace the carb with EFI.
__________________
The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.
Mpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 09:08   #12 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: goa
Posts: 993
Default

invincible ,you can do an efi system , if you have good knowledge of electronics and engines...if you do not have these than do not attempt this on your own, get some help from tuners..... or as rdkarthik said replace the engine.
dinar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 12:13   #13 (permalink)
Senior - BHPian
 
veyron1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 1,380
Default

If we're just looking at going FI, why look at multiport? Why not TBI? Simpler, cost-efficient, and minimal alterations required, in terms of wiring, manifold customizing, labour, etc....
__________________
DAD
veyron1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 13:42   #14 (permalink)
BHPian
 
invincible7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Delhi
Posts: 275
Default

hmm well seems to be a long route than i had thought so.... is there anyway to improve the performance of the car in the existing system.. i.e with carbs.... i have a complete stock car...
invincible7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th September 2007, 14:34   #15 (permalink)
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: goa
Posts: 993
Default

go in for header,FFE, porting/polishing of head,etc. there are tuners near your place, autopsyhe for one is good.you can approach him,by the getting an efi to increase performance is not the only way you need a lot of other stuff also to increase it.
dinar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for RD 350 Carbs and Clutch Inner Basket sanjusahu Motorbikes 15 6th April 2009 18:07
Urgent:Yamaha R1 Quad Carbs & G13b bruce Technical Stuff 7 23rd November 2008 04:01
Tuning Carbs Spinner Wheelz Technical Stuff 5 9th April 2008 17:08
R1 Carbs viper Shifting gears 7 30th May 2005 11:57
Diff between weber dcoes and 4 bike carbs? Stage3Monster Modifications & Accessories 7 12th March 2005 06:07


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 13:56.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Team-BHP.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652