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Old 15th December 2007, 09:11   #16
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Should / can you install Eibach lowering springs as well along with the coilover or is that unnecessary?
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A coilover comprises of springs as well as Struts/Shockabsorbers which can be lowered or raised by upto 30mm. You can also stiffen/soften your ride and have various levels of damping.

See this link to get an idea of what I am talking about. Different brands have different specs and features.

http://www.d2racingsport.com

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Hi,

A coilover comprises of springs as well as Struts/Shockabsorbers which can be lowered or raised by upto 30mm. You can also stiffen/soften your ride and have various levels of damping.

See this link to get an idea of what I am talking about. Different brands have different specs and features.

http://www.d2racingsport.com

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Looks good. The Civic is in for a touch-up job. Once that's done, we can get this in place.
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Even i am looking for fixing this problem in my uncles Civic.

I am wondering if up sizing to 205/55-16 will increase any ground clearance. Experts can you please advise.

Since the civic has already done 12k KMS, i will keep the original tyres and every time i send the car for service, change them to original one's to keep up with any warranty issues.
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Hi Visu03,

Your problem will not be solved by upsizing the tyres & rims. What you need to do is either install a Coilover suspension setup or spacers. We just installed a set of Coilovers on a Civic fitted with 22/45/17 tyres. The overall height of the car is actually slightly lower than the original, but the car does not bottom out or touch speed breakers any more. Handling has improved drastically as well.

Am giving below some pics of the same prior to the install.



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Thanks for the info Viper. Can you help me with some more information
  • Do you suggest a particular brand and model of coil over suspension for civic.
  • Are coil over suspension available from Honda?
  • How much will it cost to buy and installation costs?
  • Any good place to get them fixed in Hyderabad?
  • Any impact on warranty?
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Hi,

There are several good brands available in India like D2 Racing, Koni, Eibach & Bilstein though am not sure if they all have something available for the indian civic.

D2 racing has and I found them to be better in all aspects than the others named above. Coilovers generally cost between 50-60k for a set of 4(height & damping adjustable type) and labour depends on mechanic to mechanic(approx 2.5-4k). Any competant mechanic who can overhaul a suspension should be able to do it. Warranty is definitely out of the window nut only suspension related warranty.

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Thanks for the info Viper. I will shop around for the items as well as try to find a good place to fix my uncles car.
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From the several Civic ownership reviews that have flowed in, we are made to believe that the soft rear suspension is as much the culprit as the low GC in the road scraping.

If it really bothers you, this is the best solution:

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If budget is not a constraint I would suggest you install Coil over suspension setup which is height adjustable and you get 36 levels of damping as well. Your ride will greatly improve and you can set it up as per the road conditions.

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@ Viper : Can anyone change only the rear (soft) suspension to the coil-overs? Or is it a must to upgrade all 4 ends?
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From the several Civic ownership reviews that have flowed in, we are made to believe that the soft rear suspension is as much the culprit as the low GC in the road scraping.

If it really bothers you, this is the best solution:



@ Viper : Can anyone change only the rear (soft) suspension to the coil-overs? Or is it a must to upgrade all 4 ends?
Hi Rush,

You can change only the rear but its not recommended as then the overall handling may be affected.

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I am completely technically unaware about this. Though this sounds like an interesting idea to explore.

Can you please explore in Layman's term (from end user's perspective):
1. How damping is adjusted
2. How ride height is adjusted
3. Even with lower height how does the car manage to escape scrapping...
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I am completely technically unaware about this. Though this sounds like an interesting idea to explore.

Can you please explore in Layman's term (from end user's perspective):
1. How damping is adjusted
2. How ride height is adjusted
3. Even with lower height how does the car manage to escape scrapping...
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Pl see this link. It should answer your questions.

http://www.d2racingsport.com

As regards point 3 it does so as the suspension is stiffened.

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We just installed a set of Coilovers on a Civic fitted with 22/45/17 tyres. Viper
Arrey Jiggy bhai, kaunse cycle ka tyre fit kar diya Civic mein???
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Arrey Jiggy bhai, kaunse cycle ka tyre fit kar diya Civic mein???
Hahahahahaha,

By the time I realised the typo time up. Correct size was 225/45/17

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hi guys, one of my friends recently bought a civic.It's a lovely car and has sharp handling.But his problem is the one which was discussed to death already on multiple threads.It is the ground clearance/soft suspension/long wheel base issue.Yesterday evening we were discussing about installing skid plates under the car.Taking some cues from the grand vitara skid plate design by samurai, i was thinking on similar lines.But using cork or rubber spacers in between to give some flex to the plates and to prevent excessive pressure at mounting points or to the car chassis metal underneath.The exhaust looks safe and considering the heat dissipation i felt it should be left open.But other parts of the car will be covered by this skid plate thingy.Please post your comments guys what do you think of this?Would it be an overkill or prove entirely useless exercise?What are the possible mounting points?Is there any alloy lighter and better than aluminium which can be easily fabricated?Can a coating of tar or rubber be applied to the skid plates to deaden scraping sound ?
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Don't mess around with skid plates on a Civic, freewheel. It will reduce your net ground clearance even more. And if not properly installed can lead to additional damage.
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