Swift Mods- Baleno Engine or Swift Gti - Team-BHP

raghuram.cg · 22nd February 2008, 22:38

Hello brothers,

One of my friend wants to Mod his Swift, hes plannin an engine swap. The call is between a Swift Gti engine and a Baleno Engine, which one do you think is the better off/powerful option? how good are the Gti Engines?will they need a complete rebuild?

Also, what is the approx cost of
1. Gti Engine
2. Baleno Engine
Along with wiring harness ECM excluding the gearbox.

Any sources for the engine will be of great help.

BUSA · 22nd February 2008, 22:56

If power is what you are looking at then get the GTi engine. The Baleno engine aint bad either and can be tuned to quite a good level but IMO get the GTi engine.

cyneverdie · 22nd February 2008, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

If power is what you are looking at then get the GTi engine. The Baleno engine aint bad either and can be tuned to quite a good level but IMO get the GTi engine.

hell yes get the gti engine. Is he getting it brand new?

v1p3r · 23rd February 2008, 00:07

You don't get any brand new GTi engines, cy. Lol.

Balram, depends on turbo/NA, and whether you want a fast ride or to race. If you want to race, Esteem overbore or Baleno. Fast ride, G15 Cultus. Turbo, you will have to mix and match.

Lots of variables. If you decide on application, you can narrow it down.

dipen · 23rd February 2008, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

Lots of variables. If you decide on application, you can narrow it down.

A lot will also depend on fast or how fast and how much do you want to spend ?
Do you homework religiously and trust me the homework will take at least a couple of months.

raghuram.cg · 23rd February 2008, 11:09

Thanks BUSA,cyneverdie,akshay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

You don't get any brand new GTi engines, cy. Lol.

Balram, depends on turbo/NA, and whether you want a fast ride or to race. If you want to race, Esteem overbore or Baleno. Fast ride, G15 Cultus. Turbo, you will have to mix and match.

Lots of variables. If you decide on application, you can narrow it down.

Looking for a fast ride, I know the racing rulez

bad isnt it. Is the G15 Cultus available? what would be the approx cost?any sources/tuners???not really loooking at a turbo at this point-over budget.

any sources for Gti engine??I agree, we dont get new engines, definately have to go in for a complete rebuild. Can aybody give some rough estimates?

Budget for this project is also not too high. want to finish it as low as it can

nikhilv12 · 7th July 2008, 23:35

Guys, is it possible to change the head of the indian swift to the DOHC head, which came with the swift GTi, sold in the US?

The engine block should be the same, as both are g13's, so the GTi head should be a direct fit on the indian swift.

Here are some basic specs of the GTi engine-
Engine:

1.3L 1298cc(79.2.cu in) 16valve DOHC
Type G13B
No. of Cylinders 4
Bore 74.0 (2.91)
Stroke 75.5 (2.97)
Pistion Displacement 1298cc (79.2 cu.in)
Compresion Ratio 10:1
100HP @ 6500RPM
83 lb-ft of tourque @ 5000 RPM
EMPFI (Electronic Multipoint Fuel Injection)
Redline 6800RPM (depends on model)

Acceleration:

0-30 MPH - 2.6 Secs
0-40 MPH - 4.5 Secs
0-50 MPH - 6.3 Secs
0-60 MPH - 8.3 Secs
0-70 MPH - 11.5 Secs
0-80 MPH - 14.6 Secs
1/4 Mile time - 16.6 @ 84.7mph

( source : The Suzuki Swift GTi )

speedfreak7116 · 7th July 2008, 23:43

Talk to Mr. Fazal of FRK Racing at Whitefield. He will be able to help you out for sure.

JayD · 7th July 2008, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhilv12

Guys, is it possible to change the head of the indian swift to the DOHC head, which came with the swift GTi, sold in the US?

The engine block should be the same, as both are g13's, so the GTi head should be a direct fit on the indian swift.

Here are some basic specs of the GTi engine-
Engine:

There's a zen here Which is said to be running an esteem bottom end and a Twin cam head,and knowing the person, it should be true. so i guess its possible on the swift too.

nikhilv12 · 7th July 2008, 23:50

Thanks speedfreak, but i do not plan to do it on my car as of now, maybe after a year or so. I jut wanted to know if it is possible?

@ JayD, where? in cochin?

JayD · 7th July 2008, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhilv12

@ JayD, where? in cochin?

Yepp!! its in cochin alrite!!

nikhilv12 · 8th July 2008, 02:54

WOW! need to check it out next time i come to Cochin.
So it can be done, but is a lot of modification needed to do the same?
If no, i think it will be the best way to get more power out of the swift.
A ported and polished twin cam head can give around 16bhp more than the stock GTi head ( Stage I Cylinder Head Suzuki Swift Racing Parts - Performance Parts by Suzuki Racing Development ) Thats a total of around 116 bhp!

nikhilv12 · 21st July 2008, 20:58

GUYS, NEED HELP ON THIS ASAP!
also, is there any difference between a swift and an esteem engine, mechanically?

rippergeo · 21st July 2008, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

Yepp!! its in cochin alrite!!

anymore details? can we see it sometime?

pawan · 21st July 2008, 22:11

head and wasted spark ignition

22nd February 2008, 22:38	#1 (permalink)
raghuram.cg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 99 View My Garage	Swift Mods- Baleno Engine or Swift Gti Hello brothers, One of my friend wants to Mod his Swift, hes plannin an engine swap. The call is between a Swift Gti engine and a Baleno Engine, which one do you think is the better off/powerful option? how good are the Gti Engines?will they need a complete rebuild? Also, what is the approx cost of 1. Gti Engine 2. Baleno Engine Along with wiring harness ECM excluding the gearbox. Any sources for the engine will be of great help. __________________ When you loose, don't loose the lesson. '98 ZEN-A PIMPED UP RIDE

22nd February 2008, 22:56	#2 (permalink)
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,066 View My Garage	If power is what you are looking at then get the GTi engine. The Baleno engine aint bad either and can be tuned to quite a good level but IMO get the GTi engine. __________________ thecarsandmore.blogspot. com

23rd February 2008, 00:07	#4 (permalink)
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR - chasing cars... Posts: 4,075 View My Garage	You don't get any brand new GTi engines, cy. Lol. Balram, depends on turbo/NA, and whether you want a fast ride or to race. If you want to race, Esteem overbore or Baleno. Fast ride, G15 Cultus. Turbo, you will have to mix and match. Lots of variables. If you decide on application, you can narrow it down. __________________ *Singh is king?! He's a bloody baadshah!*

7th July 2008, 23:35	#7 (permalink)
nikhilv12 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 178 View My Garage	Guys, is it possible to change the head of the indian swift to the DOHC head, which came with the swift GTi, sold in the US? The engine block should be the same, as both are g13's, so the GTi head should be a direct fit on the indian swift. Here are some basic specs of the GTi engine- Engine: 1.3L 1298cc(79.2.cu in) 16valve DOHC Type G13B No. of Cylinders 4 Bore 74.0 (2.91) Stroke 75.5 (2.97) Pistion Displacement 1298cc (79.2 cu.in) Compresion Ratio 10:1 100HP @ 6500RPM 83 lb-ft of tourque @ 5000 RPM EMPFI (Electronic Multipoint Fuel Injection) Redline 6800RPM (depends on model) Acceleration: 0-30 MPH - 2.6 Secs 0-40 MPH - 4.5 Secs 0-50 MPH - 6.3 Secs 0-60 MPH - 8.3 Secs 0-70 MPH - 11.5 Secs 0-80 MPH - 14.6 Secs 1/4 Mile time - 16.6 @ 84.7mph ( source : The Suzuki Swift GTi ) __________________ *TOO FAST TOO FURIOUS!!!!*

7th July 2008, 23:43	#8 (permalink)
speedfreak7116 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 120	Talk to Mr. Fazal of FRK Racing at Whitefield. He will be able to help you out for sure. __________________ Bad Boyz...Drive Bad Toyz...

7th July 2008, 23:50	#10 (permalink)
nikhilv12 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 178 View My Garage	Thanks speedfreak, but i do not plan to do it on my car as of now, maybe after a year or so. I jut wanted to know if it is possible? @ JayD, where? in cochin? __________________ *TOO FAST TOO FURIOUS!!!!* Last edited by nikhilv12 : 7th July 2008 at 23:52.

8th July 2008, 02:54	#12 (permalink)
nikhilv12 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 178 View My Garage	WOW! need to check it out next time i come to Cochin. So it can be done, but is a lot of modification needed to do the same? If no, i think it will be the best way to get more power out of the swift. A ported and polished twin cam head can give around 16bhp more than the stock GTi head ( Stage I Cylinder Head Suzuki Swift Racing Parts - Performance Parts by Suzuki Racing Development ) Thats a total of around 116 bhp! __________________ *TOO FAST TOO FURIOUS!!!!* Last edited by nikhilv12 : 8th July 2008 at 03:02.

21st July 2008, 20:58	#13 (permalink)
nikhilv12 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 178 View My Garage	GUYS, NEED HELP ON THIS ASAP! also, is there any difference between a swift and an esteem engine, mechanically? __________________ *TOO FAST TOO FURIOUS!!!!*

21st July 2008, 22:11	#15 (permalink)
pawan BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 813	head and wasted spark ignition __________________ EZEN for sale.

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