So many options to increase power, what about braking? - Page 2 - Team-BHP

fiery enzyme · 27th April 2008, 03:14

Come on guys, thats all the option we have for braking?

v1p3r · 28th April 2008, 00:52

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Originally Posted by fiery enzyme

Could you give some more detail, so we laymen could get better idea?

Details on what? I thought that was pretty clear?

nitrous · 28th April 2008, 01:49

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

For the 800, I'm not too sure. But normally, better compound brake pads go a long way in helping. Other things like SS hoses, better fluid, larger and/or slotted and drilled rotors are basically to prevent brake fade, which is crucial if you live in the hills or on a racetrack.

Brake pads? Larger rotors?
You got the 800 mixed up with the esteem,heh akshay

?
In my experience, the 800 has the worst brakes. What can we expect? Its got 4 drums all around and no boosters. Gives a nostalgic feeling about braking in older ambies.

My suggestion:
Best option: If the PCD matches(which i think so), get the alto's complete front disk brake kit ,brand new and fit them.
Cheapest option: Get the brake booster fitted. there will be a palpable difference,F.enzyme.
Try it out before ruling out that option.

V-16 · 28th April 2008, 02:06

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Originally Posted by fiery enzyme

Thank you for the link.
I'm planning on the stage1 mods however going slow due to financial reasons as well as improving the braking and safety aspect.

so initially it will be the usual:
K&N or Green filter, Free flow (3 X 1 LOL), and alloys with Bridgestone G IIIs

Once i get them done and if I can do something about the braking, I'm thinking of experimenting with a tri-phase.
guys: So you think 13" wheels will help?

Good going buddy.
Re the TriPhase, i suggest you speak to Viper immediately. He had a special price on them and they are selling like hot cakes. If im not mistaken he must be sold out by now. If you dont hurry, you might just miss the bus here.

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Originally Posted by nitrous

My suggestion:
Best option: If the PCD matches(which i think so), get the alto's complete front disk brake kit ,brand new and fit them.
Cheapest option: Get the brake booster fitted. there will be a palpable difference,F.enzyme.
Try it out before ruling out that option.

I agree with Nitrous. Thats the cheap and effective way to go for a 800.

leadf00t · 28th April 2008, 02:09

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Originally Posted by nitrous

In my experience, the 800 has the worst brakes. What can we expect? Its got 4 drums all around and no boosters.

@nitrous : i dont think thats true

the M800 has 2 disc upfront and rear drums... i am not sure if that is true for all the models but atleast my 2001 MPFI 5-speed M800 did have front discs.

the M800 was my first car so everything used to be good with "my car"
however when i drove my cousin's alto there was a huge huge difference.
the Boosters should make a marked difference in the braking.

v1p3r · 28th April 2008, 02:13

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Brake pads? Larger rotors?
You got the 800 mixed up with the esteem,heh akshay

?
In my experience, the 800 has the worst brakes. What can we expect? Its got 4 drums all around and no boosters. Gives a nostalgic feeling about braking in older ambies.

Sonny, you've got the 800 mixed up with the Omni. The 800 has always had front discs.

nitrous · 28th April 2008, 02:18

^^I bet a Zinger meal, that not all 800s came with disk brakes.
Some models might have,but most are drum'd!

v1p3r · 28th April 2008, 02:22

First-gen SS80 onwards, they all came with discs, AFAIK.

iraghava · 28th April 2008, 03:15

Our '93/'97 800s came with Disc brakes on the front.

fiery enzyme · 28th April 2008, 06:14

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Originally Posted by V-16

Good going buddy.
Re the TriPhase, i suggest you speak to Viper immediately. He had a special price on them and they are selling like hot cakes. If im not mistaken he must be sold out by now. If you dont hurry, you might just miss the bus here.

Thanks V-16, I was planning on doing it later after the free flow and air filter, however if i get discount I might as well as stock up.

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Details on what? I thought that was pretty clear?

Hmm... well we have pretty expansive threads for any mods that increase performance like fitting a free flow, turbo, tri-phase etc. I was wondering if you could start one on braking. To tell you the truth I don't have a clue how the hoses would increase the performance and rotors and et all..get my drift?

GTO · 28th April 2008, 13:06

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Originally Posted by fiery enzyme

Hmm... well we have pretty expansive threads for any mods that increase performance like fitting a free flow, turbo, tri-phase etc. I was wondering if you could start one on braking.

There you go : Improving your brakes (Improving your cars brakes: Options and costs)

hrag · 28th April 2008, 13:17

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Sonny, you've got the 800 mixed up with the Omni. The 800 has always had front discs.

May be OT but the Omni comes with front discs now.

Blue Thunder · 28th April 2008, 13:39

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Originally Posted by nitrous

^^I bet a Zinger meal, that not all 800s came with disk brakes.
Some models might have,but most are drum'd!

Ok, so where and when do we meet for the Zinger meal ?

The Maruti 800 STD (standard car) has discs in front (our 1995 model used to have it).

nitrous · 28th April 2008, 16:35

Id bought this 800 in 2005 in hyderabad as a run around.
I think it had drums in the front.Thought Maruti did this to distinguish it from the alto.

fiery enzyme · 29th April 2008, 01:12

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Originally Posted by GTO

There you go : Improving your brakes (Improving your cars brakes: Options and costs)

Thanks for the find, thought I had done some thorough searching.

28th April 2008, 02:18	#22 (permalink)
nitrous Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 5,591 View My Garage	^^I bet a Zinger meal, that not all 800s came with disk brakes. Some models might have,but most are drum'd! __________________ Han:The Red Evo's yours Sean:What do u mean? H:U're representing me now...What did U think, I'm gonna let you roll in a hyundai?

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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR - chasing cars... Posts: 4,690 View My Garage	First-gen SS80 onwards, they all came with discs, AFAIK. __________________ "We Could Fly So High Let Our Spirits Never Die..." - Michael Joseph Jackson Rest in peace.

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iraghava Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,693 View My Garage	Our '93/'97 800s came with Disc brakes on the front. __________________ Reminds me of my safari in Africa.Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water.

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nitrous Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 5,591 View My Garage	Id bought this 800 in 2005 in hyderabad as a run around. I think it had drums in the front.Thought Maruti did this to distinguish it from the alto. __________________ Han:The Red Evo's yours Sean:What do u mean? H:U're representing me now...What did U think, I'm gonna let you roll in a hyundai?

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