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Old 9th February 2005, 19:55   #1
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Question Isuzu G1 engine in an Amby !!

Hello all Amby lovers,

I recently saw a few ads in the newspaper about an Isuzu G1 engine fitted in an ambassador. The owner claims it to be a 2.4Liter Diesel engine. Does anybody know about the engine, and if any cars in India are running on that engine. How does the engine fit with the gear-box and the differential??

Also how reliable is the entire setup on an amby?? How much kmpl should one expect from the engine??

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Hello all Amby lovers,

I recently saw a few ads in the newspaper about an Isuzu G1 engine fitted in an ambassador. The owner claims it to be a 2.4Liter Diesel engine. Does anybody know about the engine, and if any cars in India are running on that engine. How does the engine fit with the gear-box and the differential??

Also how reliable is the entire setup on an amby?? How much kmpl should one expect from the engine??

Thanks in advance,
Manish.
Please check which engine is this. Amby comes with 2ltr Diesel.
I've never heard of an Isuzu G1 engine. I may be wrong but check it anyway.
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Dwn South, the most common engine for an ambassador was an imported used isuzu engine. 4FB1 1800 cc, 4fc1 2000 CC (SAME AS THAT ON THE HM CRS) 4FC1 TURBO. 4FD1 2200CC AND 4FG1, 2400 CC 78 BHP. The engine can be mated to the India Iauzu gearbox, a direct fit. Spares are easily available.
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Dwn South, the most common engine for an ambassador was an imported used isuzu engine. 4FB1 1800 cc, 4fc1 2000 CC (SAME AS THAT ON THE HM CRS) 4FC1 TURBO. 4FD1 2200CC AND 4FG1, 2400 CC 78 BHP. The engine can be mated to the India Iauzu gearbox, a direct fit. Spares are easily available.

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am much interested in 4FC1 Turbo(?? HP)and 4FG1 engine .Where in south india these engines are availabe . pls furnish details

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hello john

received ur pm .seems ur inbox is full .
would appretiate if u can give ur email .want to discuss more about
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I recently saw a few ads in the newspaper about an Isuzu G1 engine fitted in an ambassador. The owner claims it to be a 2.4Liter Diesel engine. Does anybody know about the engine, and if any cars in India are running on that engine. How does the engine fit with the gear-box and the differential??

Also how reliable is the entire setup on an amby?? How much kmpl should one expect from the engine??


Hi!

This would be the 4F G1 engine... I just got my Contessa 4Z B1 petrol engine replaced with the 4F G1. The dealer who sold me the engine told me it was the G1... a little cleaning and you can see the marking "4F G1" on the engine.

It fits on the same mountings as the existing petrol engine. I used the existing gear box and differential without any issues.

I get about 9 to 11 kmpl in the city, depending on the traffic conditions and 15 to 17 kmpl on the highway (Diesel).
This is a great improvement over the 4Z B1 which used to give me anywhere between 3 to 7 kmpl in the city and 13 to 15 kmpl on the highway (Petrol).

I suppose being sisters, the Ambassador should also perform just as well as the Contessa!

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Old 16th April 2009, 15:58   #7
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Default Ambassador Isuzu

Hi,
Which is the best engine.Either Imported B1 Isuzu(1800 cc) or Imported G1 Isuzu(2000 cc)
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Default Correct Engine code for Isuzu Engines

1800CC/58BHP=4FB1
2000CC/65BHP=4FC1
2200CC/75BHP=4FD1
2400CC/84BHP=4FG1

The OEM HM 2000CC diesel which was modelled after isuzu produces only 55BHP, so dont mistake that its the same 2000CC of ISUZU.
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Old 8th July 2009, 12:55   #9
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Smile Ambassador Matador 305 Vs Japan Isuzu

Hi everybody,
I am D.Maheshkumar.I am having an Ambassador fitted with Matador 305 engine.Now the engine condition is getting down and i need to workout the engine.

I am also planning to fit Imported Isuzu B1 or G1.

What is the difference between Matador and Isuzu engine(Japan).

Is there any major differnce.

When i put AC in Matador engine the lifetime of the engine gets decreased.But mileage it give 16-18 (Isuzu gear box+Mat 305 engine).

I need a suggestion to what engine i can put nw for my amby.
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The non turbocharged(NA) Isuzu engines with 2000cc is a good engine for the Amby, it comes with a electronic fuel pump unlike the inline mechanical pump found in the matador 305 and it's much more smoother and there will not be as much drag with the Isuzu engine and A/C compared to the matador.

While going for this change be sure to change the Differential to that of the Isuzu ambassador to gain maximum benifit from the swap, other engines you could consider are the Toyota N1 and 2C series engines, but sourcing parts for the Isuzu would be easier in case of an engine rebuilt, and it will be easily available at Ukkadam market or in Metuppalayam. If sourcing an Isuzu look for an engine already on a car so that you can drive it and see and then remove it from the car and buy of course be sure to go with a good mechanic, you will have to buy a new radiator and also new engine mountings and some suspension components too and usual cost for the engines are 14K to 25K depending upon the model and condition of the engine.

Also there's no point in getting a japan isuzu now as it would have done just too much miles on it,better would be to get a low milage Isuzu engine off a 2000+ model Contessa.

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Hi Muneemmk,
Your idea of using power Steering from Honda City and power Steering Pump from Ford Escort is excellent.In my modification of 1971 Amby I made a mistake by using Ambassador's own power steering and pump as it is too hard.
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hi i am planning to buy an isuzu 4fg1 2.4 lt engine. but hardly any info is there in the net. can somebody please guide me on the specs of the engine and how reliable they are. i am planning to fit it in an army mm550 jeep
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Old 5th May 2010, 14:25   #13
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Default G1 a great engine with lots of Power.

Isuzu G1 is a fantastic engine and i fit it in my Ambassador.The speed and the performnce(Pickup) is enormous.
Engine i bought it for 30k and fully reworked the engine.It took another 35K.Fitting it took 20-25k.
Engine noise is very less.Only thing we need to find a good engine.Otherwise get a half conditioned engine and rework it fully.
Mileage will be 16-17kmpl in the highway when u drive it normal speed around 80-90.Above that it will only give 15 or less than that.
Its a Purely Mechanical(No ECU Technology)engine and u will never feel the difference in AC and NON AC.
Brakes need to altered (Power brakes with Booster option)
Overall my comment is ,Its a fantastic engine if you need more power.Check the pump also while getting the engine.Spares available.
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Old 11th May 2010, 13:39   #14
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Default HM Isuzu and imported Isuzu

There will be many difference between the HM ISuzu engines and the Imported Isuzu (from Japan) engines.

Engine Noise will be different in Imported Isuzu(Silent than HM Isuzu).

Pick up and Performance u will feel a lot difference.

I reworked my Isuzu G1 Engines before 3 months.All the parts are available.So no need t worry about the spares.

Now a days also Imported isuzu is very costly than the HM Isuzu,Only because of the differentail performance between them.

Isuzu B1 is readily available everywhere.But go for D1 or G1.More Cubic Capacity.You will only feel the difference when u drive the engines in a Car.
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i am going a little off the track here, i used to have a contessa that had a petrol engine which was replaced by an Isuzu turbo diesel unit, and man it was fast, I almost touched 200Kmh with that on Jaipur Delhi highway. I don't know what that engine would be from all of the above, but i remember my driver saying that it was a submarine engine but i dont know how true that was :P
FE was good too, around 17kmpl in city and 20 on highway with AC!

recklass driving was the reason why my father sold it 4 years ago for scrap but know i have bought another one which is mine, so would want to get something of that sorts for this one too.
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