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Old 8th September 2008, 09:44   #16
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@iceman

I had thought of that - the foundations would need to be made as would the adapter plate. So whether it is a Baleno or Mivec the work involved would (i think) be the same.

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Cheaper option = Baleno BUT the power differential is HUGE. One could always look at TC'ing the Gypsy King engine or even the Baleno engine.I have also been offered a Suzuki 1.6 GTi engine - what say ??




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Old 8th September 2008, 10:26   #17
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What adapter plate???
No way all that is required is one extra hole to de drilled on the gearbox.
Work is much less as I have seen one done. My friend owned a baleno gypsy, it is a good drive.
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What adapter plate???
No way all that is required is one extra hole to de drilled on the gearbox.
Work is much less as I have seen one done. My friend owned a baleno gypsy, it is a good drive.
  • what would the approximate cost of a good condition baleno engine that one could plonk in a Gypsy King?
  • What can one expect as the price to dispose off the 1.3L MPFI from the Gypsy king
  • How much time would this engine swap take?
  • How much approx cost would it take (apart from the baleno engine)
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Prices vary A baleno engine can be bought for 40-70k
your engine will sell for half that.
Labour depends on whom you go to.
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A B-Gypsy sounds interesting, can we retain the 4Wd with the baleno engine??
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There are a few B-Gypsys (and a B-Swift) already running the north indian rallying events. Although their complete advantage of 1.3s have yet to established.
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A B-Gypsy sounds interesting, can we retain the 4Wd with the baleno engine??
I don't think that should be an issue. The 1.3 L MPFI Gypsy King has the same engine block as the esteem/swift and it has 4wd.

BTW, I know of at least one 1.6 King in Mumbai. (and iceman knows one in Bangalore)

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A friend just got a 1.7 Nissan diesel in his Gyppo. He said theres a whole option of powerful diesels. Let me know if you want a TD of his ride. She's not fast. But, shes supposedly very FE. He was offered a few Toyota TDs. A good tourqey diesel would do wonders for the Gyppo. And, they would be more pratical
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Since this is a fun car money should be of importance here.money should be importance everywhere though.

but id say that if you want a reliable fast car.which is servicable and parts available off the shelf at your local mechs then a turbo baleno would be a better bet.
as Iceman91 said it only needs one extra hole to be drilled on the gearbox.

moreover i think the gear ratios would be better suited to the baleno engine as its of the same family.and the baleno engine is very torquey in nature also.so the turbo would boost that torque and make it even more fun to drive.


the 4WD can also be retained.
there is one problem with the mivec though.any problem and you have to look at expensive parts from abroad and the time required from them to fly down.its not that torquey down the band either.and maintenance is high.and to use all its horses 100 octane or more is required.

in the end its your decision.if your heart's set on the mivec or the 1.6 gti then go for it.
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It seems like the Baleno engine is the favoured choice here ! In which case the OE Gypsy King Engine with a turbo should do the trick, would it not ?

So from what I can tell. It is either a Stock G.King Turbo charged or the Baleno Engine with the option of TC'ing it at a later date. So the Mivec is out of the running it seems.

Anyone having experianced a power steering fitted into a Gypsy ?

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Although their complete advantage of 1.3s have yet to established.

What do you mean here ? Did not quite get it. Can you elaborate ?




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Ricky, what happened to MIVEC'ing the Lancer?
Do you have a spare MIVEC lying around by any chance?
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Ricky, i meant the advantages are there on paper in bhp terms but most of these cars frankensteins are running a rally for the first time.

razor, the mivec is definitely there, whether it will go in a lancer or a gypsy, that is the question
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Ricky, what happened to MIVEC'ing the Lancer?
Do you have a spare MIVEC lying around by any chance?

Oh !! That is very much on was just thinking maybe a Gypsy may also be fun with that stupendous power.

but as discussed above it seems to make more sense to go with the TC'ing option.


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Yes the power steering unit can be fixed on a gypsy, ther is no problems with that, it is not a major install. can be QED
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Yes the power steering unit can be fixed on a gypsy, ther is no problems with that, it is not a major install. can be QED
But is retro fixing the same reliable?
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