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Old 2nd April 2005, 15:22   #1
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Question Palio Diesel Performance

I have a Palio diesel. What can i do to increase the performance of the car without the milage going down....

Can I get a free flow exhaust or K&N filter in Hyderabad and how much will it cost me?? Will it effect the milage of the car??

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Old 3rd April 2005, 15:02   #3
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diesel, eh? hmmmm.......not very ideal way to start in the first place.....would have been better if it had been a crdi or sumthin.......
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So is there no way to increase the performance of Diesel cars?? I can see K&N filters available for Palio 1.9D on K&N site...
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well, yes, you can increase the performance of your car, but finding a proper tuner who can do these mods might be difficult;
for starters, a free flow exhaust in a diesel doesn't have the same effect as that in a petrol car-the exhaust flow streams and designs are different...
try fitting the turbocharger and the intercooler (available in a few weeks' time) from the tata indigo. this alone should boost you power to about 70-72 bhp from the existing 62. some modifications in the head and valves may be necessary, as the palio diesel, in it's stock form, runs a high compression ratio of 22.5:1; the ratio might have to be reduced, but try fitting the turbo first, and if it causes knocking, shows signs of detonation, overheating etc, then go for the head mods;viz; you could do the head mods alongside, if you find a knowledgeable mechanic who can do these mods.
go for the K&N filter first, and see if you need to do the abovesaid!!!


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Hey Rodeo. Where are you placed in Hyd. I am also from Hyd and I too own Palio 1.9D
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free flow exhaust on ur palio diesel wont be a good idea ,due to lacking back pressure ...
like veyron said ..start with the air induction .. make sure u install it properly ..and dont go for universal filters...
u can look for a 1.9TDI octavia turbo aswell..

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Old 9th April 2005, 10:06   #8
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Dont want to take a risk by modifying the head... Not looking for a big jump in performance... Would be happy if the power increases to 70bhp...

What will be performance gain if I go for K&N performance filter??

Hey Staish I live in Ameerpet...

Thanks so much for your inputs
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Dont want to take a risk by modifying the head... Not looking for a big jump in performance... Would be happy if the power increases to 70bhp...

What will be performance gain if I go for K&N performance filter??

Hey Staish I live in Ameerpet...

Thanks so much for your inputs
easier said than done,mate!! you can't get that sort of power from a diesel without a few mods. fitting a free flow exhaust/intake might have done the job for a petrol, but in case of a petrol, only the bhp increases, the torque pretty much remains the same; whereas if you do the said mods on your diesel, the torque will increase significantly alongwith the power too!!

if you go for a complete K&N kit, along with the manifold, you should see a raise in the output of about 5-10%, depending upon different factors.

but this increase won't be significant; that is, you won't be able to notice the difference in city driving-only when you rev the pants off the car on empty roads or highways, will you notice the enhancements. after the k&n mods, your F.E will increase slightly, under normal driving- and so will your top speed on the highway-you should see the northern hemisphere of 165 kmph+, if you can.

ovreall, the free flow filters will help in better engine breathing, and thus, will help in getting better overall efficiency from the engine.

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Hey guys,
Aren't there any chips available for the palio ?
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Old 9th April 2005, 14:40   #11
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I dont mind going for a turbo charger but as veyron1 said i might hv to modify the head also... Then my concern would be that the modified head should match the built in ECU....
And if something goes wrong there then i am in serious trouble....

I remember taking my car for a jerk problem( jerked when the car was at constant speed) and the entire engine was diagnosed with a computer attached... Which started the car, increased the RPM to check various parameters.. I dont know if its advisable to do all these modifications in such cars...

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hey rodeo
me too a fellow hydian
how abt a proper intro?like what u doin,hobbies,etc
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yeah lambo, performance chips are available for the palio, albeit for the 1.6 gtx, and that too if you can search around exhaustively; they aren't available for the diesel, though.

but rodeo, if you can spend a li'l moolah, i suggest you find someone who can source the parts from outside india- the 1.9 IDI for the palio and petra is also available in turbocharged form in the markets abroad. i think that the variants have been stopped now, but the parts will be available, and all the stuff is bolt-on.

but for now, get the k&n air induction kit; then think of the rest;

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Guyz, I have been going through various posts on mods on the Palio D.

Is the K&N filter gonna make a decent improvement in the performance and FE for the palio?

Where can I get one in Kochi/Trivandrum? What is the part number for it and how much would the filter and installation cost me?
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Default Increase in torque and power in Diesel ??

[quote=veyron1] in case of a petrol, only the bhp increases, the torque pretty much remains the same; whereas if you do the said mods on your diesel, the torque will increase significantly alongwith the power too!!


Hi Veyron1,

can you elaborate on that please?

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