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Old 7th April 2013, 10:32   #1936
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Hi Mithun, thanks.
Could you please elaborate the reason if you don't mind please.
It's because I've felt that the heat resisting capability is way below when compared to others(based on my perception!).

And, what was the price quoted ?
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Old 7th April 2013, 11:59   #1937
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It's because I've felt that the heat resisting capability is way below when compared to others(based on my perception!).

And, what was the price quoted ?
I am yet to see the film and its specifications.
They quoted Rs.7800 for all around and Rs 4000 for the front windshield.
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Old 7th April 2013, 19:59   #1938
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I am yet to see the film and its specifications.
They quoted Rs.7800 for all around and Rs 4000 for the front windshield.
3m CR70 would cost you 16k for all round , but with much better heat rejection and 5 year warranty.
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Old 8th April 2013, 22:36   #1939
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3m CR70 would cost you 16k for all round , but with much better heat rejection and 5 year warranty.
All round means Front Windshield included? All glass windows/shields included?

3M CR70 seems to be the safest bet for now.
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All round means Front Windshield included? All glass windows/shields included?

3M CR70 seems to be the safest bet for now.
Yes , rear, sides and front.
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Old 8th April 2013, 23:24   #1941
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Prices from 3M Chennai for the transparent films with 70% VLT:

For Front windshield : CR70 Rs. 6790+VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 50%

For Sides and Back :
RE70 Rs. 5490 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 34%
CR90 Rs.13490 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 34%
CR70 Rs. 15290 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 50%
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I had got a 25% discount on the V-Kool film that I had bought a long time ago. What is the amount of discount they are offering after the ban on films?

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Old 9th April 2013, 00:27   #1943
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I have installed 3M CR70 only on front windshield. Sides n rear, nothing installed.

Day driving - no much affect.
Night driving - on low beam of opposite vehicles, light diffuses
- on high beam of opposite vehicles, very little light diffuse, but no much difference

OT: I have a question.
One rear screen, as most vehicles I have defogger. Will it be a problem if I install film over it?
I had a concern, and hence did not opt for it.
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Old 9th April 2013, 05:55   #1944
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I have installed 3M CR70 only on front windshield. Sides n rear, nothing installed.

Day driving - no much affect.
I was contemplating of installing the CR70 on my car.
During day is there no significant difference vis a vis a car without it, is it worth going in for ?

And regarding the film on the rear defogger I have heard of the defogger working only in patches after cops removed it from a friends car.
So its best to go in for the rear sun shade rather than taking chances IMHO.
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Old 9th April 2013, 06:28   #1945
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I was contemplating of installing the CR70 on my car.
During day is there no significant difference vis a vis a car without it, is it worth going in for ?
There is quite a difference with heat control if you have 3m CR70 all over ( front, sides and rear )

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And regarding the film on the rear defogger I have heard of the defogger working only in patches after cops removed it from a friends car.
So its best to go in for the rear sun shade rather than taking chances IMHO.
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One rear screen, as most vehicles I have defogger. Will it be a problem if I install film over it?
I had a concern, and hence did not opt for it.
V-Kool is designed to be used even on top of defoggers. Even normal sun films are designed so. But, V-kool gives us a guarantee on it. I'm not 100% sure about 3m. But, it should be fine as well.

The real complication with sticking sun control film on rear with defogger is that if you want to peel it off at any time, it's a risky job. It should be done by an expert slowly or else, there is a good chance that you could spoil the defogger after the peeling work.

My advice would be to ensure that you use branded films like V-Kool and 3m, so that even in the case where you need to peel them off, you can take your car to their authorized workshops. 3m would be a safer bet since, they have other products and should still stay in business in India ( even after the stupid verdict of banning sun films ). With V-Kool, I'm not 100% sure, how their dealerships are going to survive ( even though, they do sun controlling for buildings as well.

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Prices from 3M Chennai for the transparent films with 70% VLT:

For Front windshield : CR70 Rs. 6790+VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 50%

For Sides and Back :
RE70 Rs. 5490 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 34%
CR90 Rs.13490 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 34%
CR70 Rs. 15290 + VAT(14.5%) , TSER : 50%
These are prices from 3m dealerships. If you get it done from outside shop, you can get the CR70 front + side + rear for 16,000 odd with 5 year 3m warranty. But you should be sure of the
integrity of the person who run the shop &
the expertise of the person who is going to stick it
before taking the plunge.

Among the films listed, I would highly recommend CR70 because of
  • superior heat rejection
  • More than enough visibility
  • Zero interference with GPS signal ( unlike in the case of metallic films like V-Kool 70 )
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V-Kool is designed to be used even on top of defoggers. Even normal sun films are designed so. But, V-kool gives us a guarantee on it. I'm not 100% sure about 3m. But, it should be fine as well.

The real complication with sticking sun control film on rear with defogger is that if you want to peel it off at any time, it's a risky job. It should be done by an expert slowly or else, there is a good chance that you could spoil the defogger after the peeling work.
Even a cheap film will work on de-foggers. I have used one for about 6 years.

The bigger problem then when removing it is when putting it. The installer will use a blade to cut the film to shape so it fits correctly around the connectors. Here they dont use anything between the film & the conductor surface, and this is where the biggest risk is - the conducting strip can get cut. This is the case with the so called "experts".
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Even a cheap film will work on de-foggers. I have used one for about 6 years.
Thanks for the confirmation.

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The bigger problem then when removing it is when putting it. The installer will use a blade to cut the film to shape so it fits correctly around the connectors. Here they dont use anything between the film & the conductor surface, and this is where the biggest risk is - the conducting strip can get cut. This is the case with the so called "experts".
That's weird because both the owner of 3m dealership as well as V-Kool dealership told me that the challenge is while peeling it. There were cases where defogger went bad after that. When I asked the same question before sticking V-Kool 70 on my Etios rear, the first thing they asked me was if I have films already sticked and that if that's the case, then it's risky. I asked them to give me a confirmation that they will take responsibility if something happens to the defogger while sticking it and they did give that. They told me that almost all customers that come for V-Kool films invariably have a defogger on their rear glass.

With regards to sticking it, I guess, I have seen them doing on many of my friend's car as well as my own car. I've never seen it create an issue on defogger till date. Could be workmanship dependent.

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I have 3M CR70 all round for 6 months, and haven't had any problems till date. CR70 for front glass there from almost 1 year. It's impossible to drive with out films in this season with Sun scorching everything.
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That's weird because both the owner of 3m dealership as well as V-Kool dealership told me that the challenge is while peeling it. There were cases where defogger went bad after that.
I spoke from personal experience of peeling the film myself, and closely watching the guys stick the film.
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I have 3M CR70 all round for 6 months, and haven't had any problems till date. CR70 for front glass there from almost 1 year. It's impossible to drive with out films in this season with Sun scorching everything.
No trouble with the cops? I saw CR 70 being installed on a car and noticed that it has a slight tint. Is it ok ?

Also does anyone have experience with FilmPro? What is the quality compared to 3M?
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