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Old 21st April 2005, 10:06   #1
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Just a survey on Aerodynamic Body Kits.

Do you guys think body kits should be aerodynamic, strong,light weight and withstand high temperatures?

1) Aerodynamics decreases Cd,hence increase top speeds and is only effective after certain speeds.
2) Strength and light weight comes if we do FEA and use Poly eurethane instead of Frp.

To do all these we use Tunnel testing, SGIs, FEA and R & D. Hence increase in costs. What you have to select is

If you really believe in buying regular styling kits which are for looks Select Option 1
Against performance body kits( I meant aerodynamics performance and safety) Select Option 2.
No opinion Select Option 3

Options will be

1) Body Kits for looks (Cheap)
2) Performance body kits (Costly)
3) No opinion

* Performance Body kits costs 2 to 3 times regular kits.
Cd - coefficient of drag
FEA- Finite element analysis
Frp- Fiber reinforced plastics

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Old 21st April 2005, 10:12   #2
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Depends on the ride i get i'll go for option 1 or 2.

As of now what i want is a car to run around in the city. So for that car i would definitely go for somethin that looks good and is cheap.

In case i am building a 11 or 12 second car then i would go for the performance body kits.
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Old 21st April 2005, 10:15   #3
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Harrie did I get my point across this time. Think so!!!!!

Well we have safety features also in option 2, not only speed.
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Old 21st April 2005, 10:28   #4
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aerodynamics come into play in high top end speeds ...
this holds good for very high performance cars setups which are tuned for track and drag purposes ..

light weight aeropdynamic bodykits in this case can improve acceleration more than much gain in top speed ..

Options 2 is what i will go for ..knowing that it wont be of much advantage in a street car ...
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well vulken it has to be performance kits for me.
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Old 21st April 2005, 11:58   #6
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Option 2 , although its costly.' Because its worth it ;keeping safety and performance features into consideration. If body kit priced around 80k Rs.
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hey west 80k for a performance bodykit!!!!!!
can get you three performance kits for that much!!!!!
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Old 21st April 2005, 15:08   #8
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I think Rio, autopsyche, agm... sells for 45k right, Last time I checked it was 36k with out wide body option which is 19k more with Autopsyche. Dont know how much chameleon charges, and by the way ICE where do you get performance aerodynamic kits for that price?? Im curious though..
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30k is a good price for a performance frp kit for a honda/baleno/lancer. i think standard everywhere
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Old 21st April 2005, 16:19   #10
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but bro who will give performance kit for 30 k , if its made of poly urethane, Unbreakable and is tested in wind tunnels for aerodynamics??? are any one doing it please I want one for my lancer please!!!!! I meant with the hood.
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1) Aerodynamics decreases Cd,hence increase top speeds and is only effective after certain speeds.
Aerodynamics : The branch of mechanics that deals with the motion of gases (especially air) and their effects on bodies in the flow.

As stated, the word Aerodynamics deals with the study of how gases, air in this case, flows over a certain object. Hence this statement is incorrect. Maybe you mean to say the kit will decrease the CD?

I'm still not sure what you are trying to say here, but let me take a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

You want to know if people will pay a premium if they know that the body kit they are putting on their car has been tested to show some gain in performance (doen't have to be lower Cd).

Well, at the speeds our cars and roads are capable off, it doesn't really make a difference does it? The most effective, and cheapest would be a flat bottom for your undercarraige to smoothen out the airflow.

The only real difference between a regular kit and a "performance" kit would be:
1. Weight
2. You could maybe test it to see that it does not interfere with the cooling system of the engine and brakes.

Any claims to increasing downforce or lowering Cd etc. would be purely a sales pitch. Frankly if a person is out for only performance, he would rather take that 30-60 grand and spend it on actual performance gains. All kits, whether they are tested or not would not add much to the performance.
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Any claims to increasing downforce or lowering Cd etc. would be purely a sales pitch. Frankly if a person is out for only performance, he would rather take that 30-60 grand and spend it on actual performance gains. All kits, whether they are tested or not would not add much to the performance.
Oh yes my statement is wrong and my english is bad, but , But do you know how much effort we put into building one.

We have to scan the global coordinates, Use FEAs make master models test it in wind tunnels. The last figure I could say is to make some thing like that it would cost 30 lks for a single kit.

So there should be something in it to cost that much right.

I will consider your option as C
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But do you know how much effort we put into building one.
I'm not doubting the effort that goes into it. You are asking an opinion and I gave it to you. How you want to take it is up to you, but if you are going to suceed in this field, you have to learn to take criticism constructively and not personally.

BTW have you actually made any yet?

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The last figure I could say is to make some thing like that it would cost 30 lks for a single kit.
That means you would need to sell 100 kits (considering Rs.30,000 a kit) just to recoup your costs? 100 kits of a single design for a single model of a car. If that feasable?

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No sir I am taking opinions and comments, where did I say I am not. what i am trying to say is we are doing more work for what people are paying, do you really need it or not and in your post you never gave a which option you are talking.so I said C. 30k is impossible because the market for LOOKY kits is around 45k with out the hood, You know bulky stuff with FRP. I mean eurethane costs a lot. and these are not hand made, hence refinement will be like OEM .

kit comes with carbon fiber hood, front bumper with adjustable DF, back bumper, fenders(optional carbon fiber) side skirts, CF wings. just give your opinion for price on this??

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man vulken...you are talking about wind tunnel tested aerodynamic body kits!!!
they are not done for street performance cars...last i heard you gotta spend QUITE a bit to design one.
who in his sane FU@#$%^ mind will want one of those on they daily use cars???
those are for f1,le mans,nascar(to an extent)....
not for drags bro!!!
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