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Old 23rd January 2009, 21:57   #1
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Question Performance Mods for the Ol' Honda City

Hi guys,

I have a type 2 1.5exi honda city. She's run nearly 97000kms on stock engine without mods and now needs a little boost. I'm considering a basic performance upgrade package without turbo.

Any suggestions from the gurus?

What i am considering:

- Free flow exhaust
- Throttle body enlargement
- Conical filter
- ECU remap

Considering adding ECB brakes (i like more powered braking, not that these mods will necessitate it).

I already have 205/55/15 tyres.

What are your views on this? Is it necessary to do porting and polishing as well as use custom headers?

Are iridium sparks and 9mm cables really required?

What do you think the approx cost of this would turn out to be?

All views will be highly appreciated.

@mods, can you take off my ad to sell this car from classifieds. Can't seem to part with her...
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tejas, you have opened a pandora's box by opening this thread.
people posting here will push your wallet to its extreme limits!!!! be prepared and dont say i didnt warn you!
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tejas, you have opened a pandora's box by opening this thread.
people posting here will push your wallet to its extreme limits!!!! be prepared and dont say i didnt warn you!
Roger that! Now only if i had access to the SCF...!!!
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Get it lowered also like manveet has done it.
I've driven his car and it is really good.
push the accelerator and you are pushed back in the seat !
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Congratulations on your OHC and the decision to mode her. My suggestions based on experience

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- Free flow exhaust
- Conical filter
Good idea. Just make sure your FFE includes headers.

If you are looking for mid to top range headers, Automech are decent. Else, you can contact Viper or Ford_Rocam for advice on where to get these made in Mumbai.

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- Throttle body enlargement
Keep that for Phase II, if at all.

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- ECU remap
- Considering adding ECB brakes (i like more powered braking, not that these mods will necessitate it).
- Are iridium sparks and 9mm cables really required?
- Is it necessary to do porting and polishing?
Not required.

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I already have 205/55/15 tyres.
That's the wrong upsize; should be 50 profile for 15" tires.


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What do you think the approx cost of this would turn out to be?
Stage 1, go for FFE and intakes, will be under 20k easily.
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Get it lowered also like manveet has done it.
I've driven his car and it is really good.
push the accelerator and you are pushed back in the seat !
Thank you, esp. coming from a vRS owner
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hey, start off with a conical air filter and a free flow. that should satisfy you for a couple of months. you can get both in around 12k. get a custom one made from viper. further on you can get a standalone ecu.
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put a 'bhonpu' of a bus and all the cars and cabs will move to the side thinking theres a B.E.S.T. behind. how much more effective can any performance mod be than THIS mod!!!!?????
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Hi guys,

Any suggestions from the gurus?

What i am considering:

- Free flow exhaust
- Throttle body enlargement
- Conical filter
- ECU remap

Considering adding ECB brakes (i like more powered braking, not that these mods will necessitate it).

What are your views on this? Is it necessary to do porting and polishing as well as use custom headers?

Are iridium sparks and 9mm cables really required?

What do you think the approx cost of this would turn out to be?

All views will be highly appreciated.
Tejas,

You are on the absolute right path, however you could also consider a Stand Alone ECU instead of a remap. Headers are always part of a Free Flow. Porting Polishing definitely helps but would recommend you do it in the next stage as that would involve opening the head and would take min 3-4 days.

Iridium plugs & better wires definitely help but would not recommend them at this stage, maybe later when you mod the car further. The brake pads are EBC and definitely will improve your braking.

Cost will vary from tuner to tuner.

Hope this addresses your queries

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you've got the sound byte from the baba of honda cities himself. now be a good boy and record a video of the new free flow once its done.
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Get it lowered also like manveet has done it.
That's the wrong upsize; should be 50 profile for 15" tires.

Hi,

Would not advise you to lower the car unless you plan on stiffening the suspension setup. The city is prone to bottom out at the rear and will often scrape the "car breakers" under full load. Lowering will only add to the woes.

I agree the right upsize is 205/50/15.

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Get it lowered also like manveet has done it.
I've driven his car and it is really good.
push the accelerator and you are pushed back in the seat !
Thanks abhinav.

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Congratulations on your OHC and the decision to mode her. My suggestions based on experience


Good idea. Just make sure your FFE includes headers.

If you are looking for mid to top range headers, Automech are decent. Else, you can contact Viper or Ford_Rocam for advice on where to get these made in Mumbai.


That's the wrong upsize; should be 50 profile for 15" tires.


Stage 1, go for FFE and intakes, will be under 20k easily.
Thanks. I went through your garage, very impressive and inspiring.
About the tyres, this was what i was suggested by all tyre guys for a smoother ride compared to 50. There is no touching the wheel wells, etc in this height as well.

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hey, start off with a conical air filter and a free flow. that should satisfy you for a couple of months. you can get both in around 12k. get a custom one made from viper. further on you can get a standalone ecu.
Thanks. I will PM him.

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put a 'bhonpu' of a bus and all the cars and cabs will move to the side thinking theres a B.E.S.T. behind. how much more effective can any performance mod be than THIS mod!!!!?????
That's above my budget for now.. maybe stage three... also i will need a bell and a conductor! PM me when dental practice goes down, you can be the conductor and make money of the tickets!

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Tejas,

You are on the absolute right path, however you could also consider a Stand Alone ECU instead of a remap. Headers are always part of a Free Flow. Porting Polishing definitely helps but would recommend you do it in the next stage as that would involve opening the head and would take min 3-4 days.

Iridium plugs & better wires definitely help but would not recommend them at this stage, maybe later when you mod the car further. The brake pads are EBC and definitely will improve your braking.

Cost will vary from tuner to tuner.

Hope this addresses your queries

Viper
Thanks a lot. I will PM you if i have further queries.


Guys, anymore suggestions, keep them coming... i also need headlight upgrades... Any projector fabricators in bombay? Or should i just go with the phillips bulbs?

With the OHC meet coming up next saturday, i now quite keen to get this work done before that.
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Another query. Till now linkway honda has strictly told me to use only regular petrol and not speed etc. From what i have heard, after these mods, we need to use higher octane fuel - speed or speed 93. Is this true? Not worried about higher cost, just a query.

Also with the free flow mod, etc, will the catalytic convertor be removed? If so, will it affect the PUC? Will the readings go haywire and then the PUC guy will tamper with my car tuning to get his readings right and then my performance will go haywire???!!!
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You do not need high octane fuel until you start changing the car's compression ratio -port/polish, turbo, new internals, aggressive ECU remap etc. A real free flow exhaust has no catcon. But no PUC guy can tamper with your tuning. Besides, in our great country, a PUC which is created after taking readings is a rarity in itself.
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