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Old 27th September 2006, 20:34   #46
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welll in general a traffic policeman will stop you and ask abt the modifications and enhanced power . i have never seen any kinda case like tht. guys use KB's and Rx100,135 completely modded for dirt tracks without the headlights but they are never stopped or their registration is cancelled due to this .
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Old 27th September 2006, 23:22   #47
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well all in all, Modifications should be allowed but with a level of sensitivity to the general public also, New modifications should come that provide better quality and performance and minimise any shortcomings like, A free flow exhaust installation having to remove the CAT-C, totally negating the enviorment and pollution control.
As per what I have seen in the past few years, in delhi the most general reason for a Thulla to catch you is Tinted Glasses, Extra Loud System with windows open, and Flashers.
Generally whenever you see a picket or thulla, Slow down, Shut windows and lower music levels this helps in keeping a low profile..!
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Old 28th September 2006, 12:10   #48
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With my honda city being fully modded, i was only caught for dark tints and exhaust, and once for white lights (Not Xenon, when i had d ordinary white lights).. !! I just paid around rs.100 as a bribe and got away!!
Out of all the times, only once one cop asked me where did i mod my car from, and dats it !
But lately i have been noticing in mumbai that the traffic cops are geting very strict with drivers and riders breaking the law, but no action is taken against them, as you can easily bribe them !
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With my honda city being fully modded, i was only caught for dark tints and exhaust, and once for white lights (Not Xenon, when i had d ordinary white lights).. !! I just paid around rs.100 as a bribe and got away!!
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Loud Exaust = illegal
Tints = 50% visibility for sides and 70% visibility for front and rear(checked with a light meter) needed
Lights : color immaterial, 60W is the max wattage permitted.

For tints you can argue and if they dont have light meter they cannot challan you. You can ask it to be written on challan that no light meter was used, you dont have to pay fine in court.

For lights only if you excede wattage you are in trouble.

But then this is India.
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Old 29th September 2006, 15:03   #50
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welll in general a traffic policeman will stop you and ask abt the modifications and enhanced power . i have never seen any kinda case like tht. guys use KB's and Rx100,135 completely modded for dirt tracks without the headlights but they are never stopped or their registration is cancelled due to this .
Dude !
The guys who ride these bikes seem to be really notorious.. even if the cops try to stop them.. are they gonna stop you think.. ? and if the cops are gonna follow them to catch them do u think they would suceed in catching them ?? So then wats the point in stopping them ?
Well now thats wat i feel... correct me of m wrong !!
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Tints = 50% visibility for sides and 70% visibility for front and rear(checked with a light meter) needed
I have garware sun films on my car... Now the manufacturer has written on the packaging that the tint is legal.... Now reading these legal requirements i feel it is not 50% transparent on the windows nor 70% from the rear... It is not jet black either... How do i check whether it is within the legal limits?
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For lights only if you excede wattage you are in trouble.
What about Xenons? A friend got stopped recently because his lights were 'too bright'. Those Xenons came standard on the Mondeo (he bought one 2nd hand). So whats the deal on Xenons?
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What about Xenons? A friend got stopped recently because his lights were 'too bright'. Those Xenons came standard on the Mondeo (he bought one 2nd hand). So whats the deal on Xenons?
its is an offence to drive with high beam.....so says the traffic rule book in mumbai.so its probably that.
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Old 30th September 2006, 20:43   #54
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most of the mods are illegal

BUT WE T-BHP like living with it...
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What is not illegal here? Even a merc with factory fitted nightvision and laser guided cruise control is considered as illegal. So why bother?
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Old 1st October 2006, 11:35   #56
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Seriously seems like Mumbai is way stricter on legalities than Delhi!! Here my swift was stopped by a cop to actually just comment on how nice it looks! lol! and i got all the so called illegalities - loud exhaust, HID's, strobes, neons etc. Like most of you have said its India, i think you can get away with almost any modification cuz the government aint aware of all this!
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Old 1st October 2006, 12:40   #57
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In Delhi, when I was challaned in the morning for having dark tints, I asked the cop what use of a challan if I get caught by someone else somewhere? He replied that I can't be challaned twice or thrice the same day for the same violation.

And sure enough at the next barrier was caught again for the same dark tints. I told and showed the challan slip and was allowed to pass.

Isn't the law (MV Act) same everywhere in India?

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as far as underbody lighting goes, a senior rto officer in his qualis, pulls up to me at a signal and indicated that thosse look good on my car, that much for it being illegal. i believe neons on your number plate is illegal.

loud exhaust are a problem, but only if they are too loud. a dude i know spent 1.5 lacs on just a paintjob, bodykit and muffler for his lancer(dude got ripped) to be caught thrice in 1 day for the noise and each time paid up 500rs or so.

dude law as stated is not that important, but how it is interpreted. so basically it varies from cop to cop.
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What about Xenons? A friend got stopped recently because his lights were 'too bright'. Those Xenons came standard on the Mondeo (he bought one 2nd hand). So whats the deal on Xenons?
Hey dude !
As i said dat i was stopped by a cop for white lights... but then i told him that it wasnt bright at all... he then told me that the white light - xenon that the car companies fit is allowed... !!
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I guess you guys know now why I want the RTO clearance before starting work on my convertible project...
(http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...ack-job-1.html (Convertible Zen / M800: A Proposed Hack Job...))

Don't want to end up with a show piece.
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As far as modifications go, many do not have any legal barriers. Meaning, RTO does not recognise most, and are technically permissible.

Mechanical mods are allowed, provided;

1) You do not alter the original cc.

2) You meet the current emission norms.

3) The engine number/EIN, gearbox number, remains the same as R/C.

4) Noise levels do not go above permissible thresholds.

5) All dimensions remain the same as factory spec.

Which means you can go for the following alterations, legally.

1) Profiled cams.

2) Upgraded ECMs.

3) Cat-back exhaust systems. Full free flow and headers might cause PUC hampering and noise problems. Cat-back systems allow maximum de-restriction for road use.

4) Any modifications to the ignition system, including high-tension coils (such as MSD) spark plugs, etc.

5) Fuel systems, upto FPRs, injectors, associated wiring and plumbing. Alteration of tank, reinforcement/replacement not allowed.

6) Race/modified clutches and gear ratios- gearbox housing should not be altered.

7) Forged pistons, valves, etc. As long as effective engine displacement remains the same. Controlling the noise levels and optimising engine breathing is a daunting task.

8) There's no provision for forced induction. Since turbocharging does not alter the cubic capacity, technically it's fine to boost your car (the 1.4 multiplication factor is applicable for race regulations, not road use). Same case for NOS. Illegal in most countries for road use and race, NOS is relatively a new concept in India, and there are no RTO regulations preventing it's use. The only possible loophole is the classification of NOS as fuel, in which case, it is illegal to run the engine other than that specified by the manufacturer (petrol/diesel).

9) Suspension mods are ok, provided you do not change the track and offset. Which means sway bars, strut braces, enhanced dampers etc. are technically legal.

10) Larger than factory spec rims/wheels/tyres illegal. Which means running 15 inchers when the R/C specifies 14" is illegal.


As far body/exterior modifications go;

1) No change in manufacturer specified chassis/body frame designs, unless prior permission is obtained from RTO. Which means spoilers, skirts, and modified bumpers can be fitted, so long as the ground clearance and overall width/length is not affected, as per factory spec.

2) Factory paint/colour only. You can repaint the car in any shade, so long as the colour is factory spec. For example, deep silver to moon silver, etc. RTO notification is required for change in colour, for example, red to yellow.

3) Graphics/stickers that can be classified as "distracting" is illegal. No logos/stickers allowed on the front or rear windshield.

4) No additional foglamps or spot lamps allowed in city. Usage of high beams in city is illegal too. Xenons are ok, provided it emits white light with a yellowish tinge. Blue, pure white or any other colour is illegal.

5) Strobes and neons are illegal.

6) Shrill horns, musical horns, air horns are illegal in city. Air horns are permissible on the highway.

7) Heavy window tints.

8) Reversing horns.


These are most of the technical aspects. There are probably a lot more, but these cover the aspects of our road-use.
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