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Old 25th March 2009, 15:08   #16
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Thanks Siddu,

How about isuzuki gypsy

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i would like to see what happens on the inside , positions of the 2 gear levers, and the cutting and welding reqd etc if any .

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All the best for the project Dwaraka. Any specific reason for going the MPFi way? The carb version makes 11bhp more and should be easier to install and work on right?
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Carb Engines were little old and thought of technology obsolesence for parts availability in future. Hence, made choice of mpfi version - bharat III supposedly. The dealer offered to take out MPFI kit and fit regular delco distributor on this engine. I thought of modification to gypsy not engine, hence retained the MPFI.

Mpfi gives 88 bhp I pressume, is more than sufficient power for off roading.

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I think I've offended dwaraka. No reply to my post..
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Old 25th March 2009, 15:13   #19
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Why would you want to convert a 4x4 to 4x2, esp since you do offroading. the power advantage somehow doesnt ring a bell for me, and a diesel would have atleast given you good low end torque compared to petrol? am confused.
Jaggu,

As I mentioned earlier, the gypsy offers best mod opportunity, because T-case is divorced. Only change will be that , T-case position moves backwards for few inches and the connecting rods will get reduced in size from gearbox. But the connecting rod between T-case and front differential will increase in length by few inches too.

Offcourse I will retain my 4 WD with more power.

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I'm going to disturb dwaraka regularly from now on.
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You are welcome to disturb .

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Old 25th March 2009, 15:16   #21
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haha ok , what you chop off from the prop shaft from gear box , you can weld that bit on to the prop shaft going to the front diff, plain ol cut and paste , lol .
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Since it has a divorced Transfer case, it should be a matter of aligning prop shaft and adjusting length, i assume.
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You are right there. Alignment and length must be perfect.


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Sorry for late response. Not going to be affended sir. I am sport.

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All the best. This is an awesome mod.
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Old 25th March 2009, 16:34   #24
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BTW, I must thank Arka a.k.a. ex670 for his advice to go for Isuzu engine and gearbox. Else, would have been in circle of decision on baleno, gypsy king and so on.
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alrightee you are retaining the 4x4, good move

MPFI torque rating can someone confirm since IIRC engine and gear box were detuned/ratio changed, even the amby's required I gear to have a clean pull from stop compared to the previous carbed once?? Diesel though used to be a torque bomb.
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Wow, seeing these pictures brings in me a feeling of Déjà vu. As you know, I walked the same path with my Classic. The end result was a disaster : an overheating, mechanically faulty unreliable Jeep with no option of 4x4. You can say that the 2.5 diesel transplant brought my Jeep back from the dead. I don't mean to discourage you but just hope that you / your mechanics adopt an expert approach to making this work. Did you consider selling your 1.0 Gypsy for a 1.3?

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Mpfi gives 88 bhp I pressume, is more than sufficient power for off roading.
Nope, the MPFi is rated @ 74 BHP.

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BTW, I must thank Arka a.k.a. ex670 for his advice to go for Isuzu engine and gearbox. Else, would have been in circle of decision on baleno, gypsy king and so on.
Arka's suggestion is reassuring. He played a significant role in convincing me to go in for the 2.5 XD3P diesel.

Good luck, Dwaraka. I'll be watching this thread closely and hope that your Gypsy comes out with better pep, while retaining reliability.
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Wow, seeing these pictures brings in me a feeling of Déjà vu. As you know, I walked the same path with my Classic. The end result was a disaster : an overheating, mechanically faulty unreliable Jeep with no option of 4x4.
As far as the Gypsy is concerned, you can plonk in almost any engine (few parameters need to match).
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One of the Raid de Himalaya vehicles had a similar set up (1.8 Carb engine.)
Dwarak, u can discuss with the owner (Mr.Mitesh) for info. on his vehicle.
I've PM-ed you his contact details.
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GTO,

Thank you for your suggestions. Appreciate the concern.

Mexxxentric, Thank you.

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Hi All, Here are pictures of 28.3.2009 with engine mounting testing.

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