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Old 4th May 2010, 16:53   #106
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Does installing the box affect fuel consumption/mileage? if yes, by how much??
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Old 5th May 2010, 12:38   #107
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Does installing the box affect fuel consumption/mileage? if yes, by how much??
If you maintain a conservative driving style (which you will NOT with that extra power / torque), I'd say marginal difference.

Note that the Pete's box that is being discussed here is only offered for diesels.
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Does installing the box affect fuel consumption/mileage? if yes, by how much??
Any piggy back system that are available for the normally aspirated petrol engines are a waste of time. They can't alter the ignition timing, which is necessary to get the most out of your engine especially when you want to add other performance items.

What you want to do to your engine is:

Properly designed induction
Replacing terrible back box by a proper performance back box
Replace cam (4x4 but could also be 176) by 866 cam.
Re-map on the rolling road.

This will see you a 25% increase through the rpm range.
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Pete.. will you be coming out with a tuning box for petrol engines? The MPFi Esteem badly needs it!! Please give us something. Not fair that it is only available for Diesels.

I have already installed a K&N performance filter but I do not wish to install the FFE as I did in my previous esteem as I dont want any sound. Do help.
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Thanks CPH, wow thats a lot of tech speak. But questions..

1.How is it going to get done?
2. where do I find the components/parts? Not in India, I suppose.
3. How much would it cost??
4. and most importantly, in India, who's going to do it for me???

Anyways, would like to know more so check your mail, Carl.
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Pete.. will you be coming out with a tuning box for petrol engines? The MPFi Esteem badly needs it!! Please give us something. Not fair that it is only available for Diesels.

I have already installed a K&N performance filter but I do not wish to install the FFE as I did in my previous esteem as I dont want any sound. Do help.
I think it is best if you start a new thread about it as this one has got more to do with the Linea.

I will supply a re-map as I don't think that a tuning box for the petrol is worth any money.

FFE, when designed properly will not be any louder than standard, but will improve performance more than noticable.
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Thanks CPH, wow thats a lot of tech speak. But questions..

1.How is it going to get done?
2. where do I find the components/parts? Not in India, I suppose.
3. How much would it cost??
4. and most importantly, in India, who's going to do it for me???

Anyways, would like to know more so check your mail, Carl.
How is it going to be done?

I am planning to do it on your car.

Where do you find the components?

They will find you when I bring them along.

How much would it cost?

It depends how much you want to do, but will be cheaper than you think.

Who is going to do it for you?

Most likely me.

I checked mail, but can't find any you sent.
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I think it is best if you start a new thread about it as this one has got more to do with the Linea.

I will supply a re-map as I don't think that a tuning box for the petrol is worth any money.

FFE, when designed properly will not be any louder than standard, but will improve performance more than noticable.

Are you coming anytime soon to india? When you say "supply" you mean you will re-map the ECu or get a re-mapped ECU for it?
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Are you coming anytime soon to india? When you say "supply" you mean you will re-map the ECu or get a re-mapped ECU for it?
I am planning to do the re-mapping your end.
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I am planning to do the re-mapping your end.
well will it be done by you in a private workshop with expensive equipment (i have seen them scan my palio in the Fiat A-S-S through the OBD port for any problems in the fuel flow etc.
or
will it be done using say a hand-held device like a laptop(im not sure about this).
Sorry for sounding opportunistic but is it possible for the 1.2 palio Nv for marginal Gains?
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If you maintain a conservative driving style (which you will NOT with that extra power / torque), I'd say marginal difference.

Note that the Pete's box that is being discussed here is only offered for diesels.
+1. Been using a Pete's box on my diesel from over 1.5 years and there has been no change to FE which was 14kmpl before and even now its the same despite higher revving.

Only downside with a pete's box, the car under heavy accelaration emanates a lot of black smoke which according to me is an embarrassment.
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For the petrolheads without turbocharged engines, CPH is correct in that an add on unit of Pete's type cannot contribute much, as it essentially 'fools' the ECU into doing what you want.

However, esp. in India there is about 10% available in almost every naturally aspirated petrol engine, which is the downgrade done by the vendor to cope with our 'poor' petrol. For example, the Civic is 140bhp globally, but is 'tweaked' to 130bhp in India. Voila a remap to the global specs will gie you 10hp more. Now with BS3 petrol being the minimum (BS3 & BS4 regular is 91RON, and Premium 95RON) from next month, there is no reason to keep this margin of safety. Only avoid the pumps with unofficial additives.

Pete's system essentially uses up about a third to half of the 20-30% margin of safety inbuilt into the engine.
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Bump bump

So where are we? No one on T-BHP yet with a Pete'd Linea/Punto MJD?

Alright - lets hear from Swift DDIS owners who've installed Pete's box - should give us some food for thought.
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Bump bump

So where are we? No one on T-BHP yet with a Pete'd Linea/Punto MJD?

Alright - lets hear from Swift DDIS owners who've installed Pete's box - should give us some food for thought.
There is atleast one Punto. Check out here

There are many outside T-bhp
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Only downside with a pete's box, the car under heavy accelaration emanates a lot of black smoke which according to me is an embarrassment.
I am under the impression that this drawback can be eliminated by installing high-end air filters like K&N or Green Cotton? Appreciate your thoughts on this.
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