350Bhp Octavia - Team-BHP

mahi0375 · 27th May 2005, 19:13

Hi,
Today seen a 350 Bhp Octavia with big Turbo in it ...
Seen in ECR Chennai ............Black RS...
Any one seen it ????

GTO · 27th May 2005, 19:18

350 BHP on the front wheels? That car would be a disaster to drive.

I honestly dont believe the figures (BHP) some tuners throw around.

GTO

Shan2nu · 27th May 2005, 19:19

I hope it's a AWD, coz if it isn't..............the point of having 350bhp is immediately lost.

When will people learn that there's a big diff between a smart modification and an obsessive one. The later, ain't gonna take you nowhere.

Shan2nu

mahi0375 · 27th May 2005, 19:25

I dont have any details about the car.........Its FWD car ......They have told 350 BHP but i dont know........

Shan2nu · 27th May 2005, 19:29

Frankly, i don't believe it's anywhere close to 350bhp. 350bhp from a 1.8 is no joke (especially in India).

If this car really has 350bhp, then let me see it do a 12.** sec 1/4 mile first.

Shan2nu

Revvmaster · 27th May 2005, 19:40

Well the last i heard was 280 bhp.. on dyno from a modded 1.8T. 350bhp is possible i suppose, but then again unless this car can show its dyno results, the claim can be held untrue.

Besides, logic says... anything more than 250 bhp to the front wheels... and you have a recipe for disaster. That car must be a tramline king, the torque steer it produces must be mad. And of course... understeers like a 1,00,000 tonne oil tanker for sure...

Revv

mahi0375 · 27th May 2005, 19:41

I think people in chennai should spend some time in ECR Chennai
U can see lot of cool cars here.......I dont have pic ....if i have i dont post it here because i recived complaint on pic of TC ford mondeo.

Shan2nu · 27th May 2005, 19:58

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Besides, logic says... anything more than 250 bhp to the front wheels... and you have a recipe for disaster.

Hehe, try telling that to Alfa Romeo coz, they've just gone ahead and launched the AR 147GTA which is a FWD and produces 328bhp!!!

Now, Top Gear tested it on their track and found that it was quicker than the latest Subaru Imprezza and the new BMW M3. But, it's still not the car to have, if you're to handle the twisties.

Shan2nu

turbo_lover · 27th May 2005, 20:51

... there are so many american cars which are front wheel driven with huge BHP figures ...all it needs is a good Traction control .. Monte carlo SS is one of them ,
so was the Pontiac - Grand Prix GTP .

either ways i need to see a 350bhp Octavia before i can believe something like that ...

Mpower · 27th May 2005, 20:58

The Octavia WRC car has about that much power....but of course its has AWD as well.

Shan2nu · 27th May 2005, 21:01

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The Octavia WRC car has about that much power....but of course its has AWD as well

Yeah right, and how many parts/components do you think the WRC car shares with the road car? The Skoda logo would be a good start. LOL

Shan2nu

Mpower · 27th May 2005, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Yeah right, and how many parts/components do you think the WRC car shares with the road car?

Its supposed to share quite a bit. And to qualify for WRC the companies have to bulid like 2500 cars for sale to the public....called homologation specials. Its supposed to use the same engine block with same bore and stroke with certain components upgraded.
Marcus Grunhom and Harrie Rovenperas' Peugeots were disqualified in last year' Cyprus rally? because they cars did'nt have certain production parts.

Mpower · 27th May 2005, 22:37

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Originally Posted by mahi0375

I think people in chennai should spend some time in ECR Chennai.

Hey, tell us more about this ECR place? What is it?

Shan2nu · 27th May 2005, 23:18

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Its supposed to use the same engine block with same bore and stroke with certain components upgraded.

Octavia WRC :
Engine capacity - 1997.5cc
Bore - 82.5 mm
Stroke - 93.5mm

Octavia Road Car :
Engine capacity - 1984cc
Bore - 82.5mm
Stroke - 92.8mm

Shan2nu

Mpower · 27th May 2005, 23:44

Modifications allowed according to FIA GroupA regulations:

Full suspension geometry and layout. The original mounting points must be preserved within a 20mm radius
Engine internals including camshafts, crankshaft, valves. Other engine components can be machined. The engine bloc must be preserved
2 liter turbo charged engines (there's an FIA 1.7 engine displacement multiplication factor for turbo charged cars) using a 34mm turbo restrictor

OK, I did some research and this is off the net. I guess you have you use a production block and restrict size to 2liter....hence the small increase in BxH .(I was just going off of my memory) Point I'm trying to make is that these cars use a large amount of stock parts unlike DTM cars which are out and out racemachines painted to look like their production brethern....which means 350 bhp is doable.

27th May 2005, 19:13	#1 (permalink)
mahi0375 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 120	350Bhp Octavia Hi, Today seen a 350 Bhp Octavia with big Turbo in it ... Seen in ECR Chennai ............Black RS... Any one seen it ????

27th May 2005, 19:18	#2 (permalink)
GTO Super-Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 12,188 View My Garage	350 BHP on the front wheels? That car would be a disaster to drive. I honestly dont believe the figures (BHP) some tuners throw around. GTO __________________ GTO Change the way you think, and watch the world change around you. Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

27th May 2005, 19:19	#3 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,066 View My Garage	I hope it's a AWD, coz if it isn't..............the point of having 350bhp is immediately lost. When will people learn that there's a big diff between a smart modification and an obsessive one. The later, ain't gonna take you nowhere. Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE Last edited by Shan2nu : 27th May 2005 at 19:22.

27th May 2005, 19:29	#5 (permalink)
Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli/Blore - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,066 View My Garage	Frankly, i don't believe it's anywhere close to 350bhp. 350bhp from a 1.8 is no joke (especially in India). If this car really has 350bhp, then let me see it do a 12. sec 1/4 mile first. Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE**

27th May 2005, 19:41	#7 (permalink)
mahi0375 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 120	I think people in chennai should spend some time in ECR Chennai U can see lot of cool cars here.......I dont have pic ....if i have i dont post it here because i recived complaint on pic of TC ford mondeo. Last edited by mahi0375 : 27th May 2005 at 19:42.

27th May 2005, 19:25	#4 (permalink)
mahi0375 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 120	I dont have any details about the car.........Its FWD car ......They have told 350 BHP but i dont know........

27th May 2005, 19:40	#6 (permalink)
Revvmaster BANNED Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,129	Well the last i heard was 280 bhp.. on dyno from a modded 1.8T. 350bhp is possible i suppose, but then again unless this car can show its dyno results, the claim can be held untrue. Besides, logic says... anything more than 250 bhp to the front wheels... and you have a recipe for disaster. That car must be a tramline king, the torque steer it produces must be mad. And of course... understeers like a 1,00,000 tonne oil tanker for sure... Revv

27th May 2005, 20:51	#9 (permalink)
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Windsor Posts: 1,339	... there are so many american cars which are front wheel driven with huge BHP figures ...all it needs is a good Traction control .. Monte carlo SS is one of them , so was the Pontiac - Grand Prix GTP . either ways i need to see a 350bhp Octavia before i can believe something like that ... __________________ Every weapon needs a master

27th May 2005, 20:58	#10 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,668 View My Garage	The Octavia WRC car has about that much power....but of course its has AWD as well. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

27th May 2005, 23:44	#15 (permalink)
Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,668 View My Garage	Modifications allowed according to FIA GroupA regulations: Full suspension geometry and layout. The original mounting points must be preserved within a 20mm radius Engine internals including camshafts, crankshaft, valves. Other engine components can be machined. The engine bloc must be preserved 2 liter turbo charged engines (there's an FIA 1.7 engine displacement multiplication factor for turbo charged cars) using a 34mm turbo restrictor OK, I did some research and this is off the net. I guess you have you use a production block and restrict size to 2liter....hence the small increase in BxH .(I was just going off of my memory) Point I'm trying to make is that these cars use a large amount of stock parts unlike DTM cars which are out and out racemachines painted to look like their production brethern....which means 350 bhp is doable. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

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