5L budget - Baleno put through some serious mods - Page 6 - Team-BHP

ram_hyundai · 19th May 2009, 12:14

I feel the baleno would be the best choice,As v1p3r told spares Wont be that easy for the 98Model civic.So dont waste time-get hold of her soon.Can we have a clue on the color,lolz.
ram

karthik247 · 19th May 2009, 14:52

So will be sticking with the Baleno only.. Started looking for the parts, will be getting tires this week.

BTW are there any lowering options available for the Baleno??

cooldude1988765 · 19th May 2009, 15:29

Karthik the baleno is already pretty low. If you lower it any further you cannot drive over speed breakers anymore.

crazydiablo · 19th May 2009, 15:49

yes lowering springs are available for the baleno.

fieroid · 19th May 2009, 18:08

what size pistons were you guys using for the big bore build? someone here said 76mm Honda? What mods are done on the head to get better gains?

karthik247 · 19th May 2009, 18:16

We're not doing a big bore.. would be doing a turbocharge on it.

mclaren1885 · 19th May 2009, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieroid

what size pistons were you guys using for the big bore build? someone here said 76mm Honda? What mods are done on the head to get better gains?

Joel (I guess), I was using 76mm Honda pistons. I had a word with the man who has perfected the art of using these pistons to run big bore baleno's. He mentioned something on the lines of a complicated process of honing to be done and a lot of other parameters to be kept in mind. Since I was short on time and was marshaling the Nandi Hill Climb I could not get into a detailed conversation over it. Once he comes back, I shall find out all the details and keep you posted.

I think Amit was running 78mm pistons when running the 1.8L mill?

crazydiablo · 19th May 2009, 18:40

I can guess the man who has perfected this art. I dont think 76mm would give you 1750cc which is the big bore for baleno. Just an oversize piston is not a big bore baleno. Yes a lot of parameters should be kept in mind other wise you have n number of issues.

So we will see a turbo baleno soon. Thats nice, give us more details.

mclaren1885 · 19th May 2009, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiablo

I can guess the man who has perfected this art. I dont think 76mm would give you 1750cc which is the big bore for baleno. Just an oversize piston is not a big bore baleno. Yes a lot of parameters should be kept in mind other wise you have n number of issues.

So we will see a turbo baleno soon. Thats nice, give us more details.

You are right, sorry I got confused between big bore and oversize. 75.5mm gives your roughly around 1611cc and 76mm I hear gives you around 164x cc.

fieroid · 19th May 2009, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Joel (I guess), I was using 76mm Honda pistons. I had a word with the man who has perfected the art of using these pistons to run big bore baleno's. He mentioned something on the lines of a complicated process of honing to be done and a lot of other parameters to be kept in mind. Since I was short on time and was marshaling the Nandi Hill Climb I could not get into a detailed conversation over it. Once he comes back, I shall find out all the details and keep you posted.

I think Amit was running 78mm pistons when running the 1.8L mill?

There are number of things to keep in mind when taking the big-bore route. If done well, it should work as well as your stock engine, provided you're not running radically high compression and taxing the bottom more than it can take.
Ok, what about the head, stock valves? was the head flowing more for a big-bore? I dont mean porting and polishing now.

crazydiablo · 19th May 2009, 19:46

I dont think big bore will tax the bottom end. Thats not your worries, there is another fundamental design flaw in the Baleno which is not very conducive to overboring. The bore and stroke of the J18 is different.

karthik247 · 19th May 2009, 20:24

Need to pick up 15" Konig wheels, so guys help me out on the following designs..

cooldude1988765 · 19th May 2009, 20:52

I liked all except the 2nd. 5th and last one. Last one would look good on red.
EDIT: I could pick one if i knew the colour of the car.

IronWolf · 19th May 2009, 21:06

What is the color of the var you finalized?

I'd say the thumb rule is deeper the Lip for the rim, the better it looks.

I vote 3 > 4 > 1 in that particular order.

Mistakenguy · 19th May 2009, 21:07

The third and sixth designs are really good . What colour are you looking for ?

19th May 2009, 12:14	#76 (permalink)
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: trivandrum,alleppey Posts: 1,807 View My Garage	I feel the baleno would be the best choice,As v1p3r told spares Wont be that easy for the 98Model civic.So dont waste time-get hold of her soon.Can we have a clue on the color,lolz. ram __________________ *Back home after a looong break he he he*

19th May 2009, 14:52	#77 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,564 View My Garage	So will be sticking with the Baleno only.. Started looking for the parts, will be getting tires this week. BTW are there any lowering options available for the Baleno?? __________________ Mitsubishi Cedia - Pearl White Skoda Octavia vRS - Magic Black

19th May 2009, 15:29	#78 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 885	Karthik the baleno is already pretty low. If you lower it any further you cannot drive over speed breakers anymore. __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson

19th May 2009, 18:08	#80 (permalink)
fieroid BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 585	what size pistons were you guys using for the big bore build? someone here said 76mm Honda? What mods are done on the head to get better gains? __________________ There is more to life than incresing its speed!

19th May 2009, 18:16	#81 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,564 View My Garage	We're not doing a big bore.. would be doing a turbocharge on it. __________________ Mitsubishi Cedia - Pearl White Skoda Octavia vRS - Magic Black

19th May 2009, 15:49	#79 (permalink)
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 776 View My Garage	yes lowering springs are available for the baleno.

19th May 2009, 18:40	#83 (permalink)
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 776 View My Garage	I can guess the man who has perfected this art. I dont think 76mm would give you 1750cc which is the big bore for baleno. Just an oversize piston is not a big bore baleno. Yes a lot of parameters should be kept in mind other wise you have n number of issues. So we will see a turbo baleno soon. Thats nice, give us more details.

19th May 2009, 19:46	#86 (permalink)
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 776 View My Garage	I dont think big bore will tax the bottom end. Thats not your worries, there is another fundamental design flaw in the Baleno which is not very conducive to overboring. The bore and stroke of the J18 is different.

19th May 2009, 20:24	#87 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,564 View My Garage	Need to pick up 15" Konig wheels, so guys help me out on the following designs.. Attached Images __________________ Mitsubishi Cedia - Pearl White Skoda Octavia vRS - Magic Black

19th May 2009, 20:52	#88 (permalink)
cooldude1988765 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 885	I liked all except the 2nd. 5th and last one. Last one would look good on red. EDIT: I could pick one if i knew the colour of the car. __________________ I never thought it was humanly possible, but this both sucks and blows. - Bart Simpson Last edited by cooldude1988765 : 19th May 2009 at 20:54.

19th May 2009, 21:06	#89 (permalink)
IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	What is the color of the var you finalized? I'd say the thumb rule is deeper the Lip for the rim, the better it looks. I vote 3 > 4 > 1 in that particular order. __________________ You'll have mud in places you didn't know you HAD. - Sarge's take on Offroading.

19th May 2009, 21:07	#90 (permalink)
Mistakenguy BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anand Posts: 103	The third and sixth designs are really good . What colour are you looking for ?

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