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Old 8th June 2009, 11:09   #31
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I have narrowed my choice down to two options.

1. Philips Extreme Power 60/55. Cost Rs. 999.
Quite a huge load is available at Reliance Autozone in Ambi Mall, Gurgaon.

2. Philips Essential Vision - 100/90 - Cost Around Rs 700

Of these two which one should I go in for. As said earlier, I am also looking for a good pure white light and something that is quite strong in terms of lighting up the road.

Then, if I go in for 100 / 90, do I need to change the wiring or anything. The shop guy said it is not required.

Whats your take guys
Essential vision are around 280-300 per bulb
I would any day go for 100\90 over 60\55,no replacement for displacement


and you need to have relay and wiring kit with 100\90 bulbs to use them to their full potential,costs around 500-600 bucks
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Old 8th June 2009, 12:28   #32
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Thanks Akshay. I have a very lame doubt. The need for wiring is because the existing wires are not strong enough?

And do the 100/90's emit pure white light
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Philips Crystal Vision are 55/60 bulbs, pretty useless I must admit. The colour is dense white.
@Anant - You can use Crystal Vision without any additional relay+wiring.

Philips Diamond Vision are 55/60, equally pathetic. The colour is deep blue (only for the HID effect).

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Anant Crystal visions bulbs have a dark blue tint,thats why they emit bluish light,and they arent too bright and they are rated at 60/55.

Essential vision bulbs have light blue tint,that emits whitish light,and its less irritating as well,I am quite happy with these,although the low beam is not impressive,but high beam is amazing,and i can vouch for it since i drive on highways in dark frequently.

and I am using them with Wiring kit and relay.
Thanks guys.
I had HIDs earlier, stopped working so have switched back to my old Crystal Visions for the time being. I feel like driving blind. I guess once you go HID, you'll always be HID. Nothing beats them (in my experience at least).
I also need white light to match my LEDs on the headlights otherwise they just look odd. HIDs and the CVs match them perfectly. So are the EVs as white?
Saw the essential vision 90/100s wasnt sure if they would be as white as the Crystals.

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I am using Philips X-treme power 60/55's for a few months now and they completely worth the money. You don't need do any wiring changes and they are fully street legal. The light is not completely white - which I think is a good thing because it does reflect off in rain. The throw and spread are a class apart - you can clearly see the road shoulder even under oncoming high beam in highways. Low beam is great for city driving. Fully recommended.
+1, I do completely agree with this statement.
Every rupee is worth spending. Ensure that you buy the orginal, from the authorised seller.

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Old 8th June 2009, 14:56   #35
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Thanks Akshay. I have a very lame doubt. The need for wiring is because the existing wires are not strong enough?

And do the 100/90's emit pure white light
100\90 bulbs will give an additional load to stock wiring

yes 100\90 essential vision emit white light.


@anant nothing can match HID's I have been using a Chinese make HID on my bike for almost 3 years now,and inspite of being exposed to elements its going on fine.
why did your's went bad?
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I personally find the white light blinding. Specially when on high beams. I have stuck to yellow 100/90 from Orsam. I would recommend them strongly. Needed a relay in my Dzire.
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q - ive a 07 camry. now my regular light is white (manual says discharge bulbs), whereas my high beam light is yellow. is this a projector light?
what should i go for if i want to change to white light for my high beam as well.
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If you want bight light and clear visiblity switch to Phillips rallye 130/100 bulb cost is approximately Rs.160-Rs.190 pwe bulb,you have to install a headlight wiring kit with a Headlight Relay,which will make its life live longer,the total damage to your pocket will be anything between Rs.1100/-

The light coming out of these bulbs will be bright regular yellow.

I had a choice between a pair of Hella 130/90 H4 head lamp bulbs from the store I usually get my accessories from, or a pair of Philips Rally 130/100 H4 bulbs from a different store. I didn't bother to ask about the price of the Hella bulbs and instead got the Philips Rally 130/100 for Rs.500/- a pair (i.e. Rs.250/- each). I already had a head lamp relay and ceramic bulb holders so it was just a matter of replacing the old bulbs with the Philips Rally bulbs.
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I had a choice between a pair of Hella 130/90 H4 head lamp bulbs from the store I usually get my accessories from, or a pair of Philips Rally 130/100 H4 bulbs from a different store. I didn't bother to ask about the price of the Hella bulbs and instead got the Philips Rally 130/100 for Rs.500/- a pair (i.e. Rs.250/- each). I already had a head lamp relay and ceramic bulb holders so it was just a matter of replacing the old bulbs with the Philips Rally bulbs.
Bro you've a very old thread,but obvious the rates have increased and i am sure you might be enjoying your upgrade.
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I had a choice between a pair of Hella 130/90 H4 head lamp bulbs from the store I usually get my accessories from, or a pair of Philips Rally 130/100 H4 bulbs from a different store. I didn't bother to ask about the price of the Hella bulbs and instead got the Philips Rally 130/100 for Rs.500/- a pair (i.e. Rs.250/- each). I already had a head lamp relay and ceramic bulb holders so it was just a matter of replacing the old bulbs with the Philips Rally bulbs.
At 500 bucks a pair its expensive, I paid 350 bucks last week for the Philips 130/100 bulbs in Bangalore.
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At 500 bucks a pair its expensive, I paid 350 bucks last week for the Philips 130/100 bulbs in Bangalore.
+1.
Got Philips Rally 130/100 for 350 a pair yesterday.
They really do inspire confidence for night driving.
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I have been using Philips 80+ for last 1 year plus, these are just plug and play stuff since they are 55/60 rating and light is definitely better than 90/100 bulbs i had used.

Pricey at 900-1200 bucks depending on where you get it, but bang for the buck paid.
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+1.
Got Philips Rally 130/100 for 350 a pair yesterday.
They really do inspire confidence for night driving.
and blind the oncoming traffic as well !
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and blind the oncoming traffic as well !

Theoretically.
Atleast i don't use high beam on oncoming traffic and the low beam does not blind them.In real world scenario at least 80% people driving here in NCR drive with their High Beams on all the time.I use my high beams only when the oncoming traffic is blinding me and my high beam makes them go low beam and acts as a counter measure.

As far as blinding is concerned it would be better if people learn the use the light in the right direction rather than be bothered of its intensity.

"No matter how intense the light is, it would not blind the oncoming traffic if it is pointed towards the road correctly."

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