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Old 17th August 2005, 16:41   #16
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hey, 3.7 secs is the time my cars tyres take to start to move ..lol -- and u have reached 100 !!! lol

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Old 17th August 2005, 17:25   #17
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I drive a 1999 Honda Civic 2 door...
Has a 2.2 ltr VTI Honda engine, T4 Turbo (1.4 bar Boost), stand alone fuel management, completely new ECU/engine mapping and chip. Traction control, reworked cyclinder head (gas flowed), lightend fly wheel and a new 6 speed transmission as well.

This get me about 370kW (500 bhp) or so and does 0-100 km/h in about 3.7 seconds.
that's a neat ride there, dude.... hmmm..so 1.4 bar boost, eh...?? that would mean around 20.3 psi of boost....yikes...!!! can the stock block withstand that sort of boost without reinforcing the bores.. (and forged pistons- i don't know if JE can withstand pressures at that level)?? and do you have the coupe' or the hatch..?? and since the civic came with a 1.6 litre, (later ones with a 160 bhp Si series), which engine did you go in for... was it the 2.2 prelude..??

and surely, you mean crank hp. when you quoted 500 bhp.... but, did you dyno it..?? how was the figure arrived at..?? even the stock 2.2 of the prelude (99 series; earlier with 185 bhp) produced about 200 bhp, so... that's quite a jump....

and 0-100 in 3.7....wow... so what's your best ET... 10.0 flat..?? that's quite a ride you got there....!! nice, dude....
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that's a neat ride there, dude.... hmmm..so 1.4 bar boost, eh...?? that would mean around 20.3 psi of boost....yikes...!!! can the stock block withstand that sort of boost without reinforcing the bores.. (and forged pistons- i don't know if JE can withstand pressures at that level)?? and do you have the coupe' or the hatch..?? and since the civic came with a 1.6 litre, (later ones with a 160 bhp Si series), which engine did you go in for... was it the 2.2 prelude..??

and surely, you mean crank hp. when you quoted 500 bhp.... but, did you dyno it..?? how was the figure arrived at..?? even the stock 2.2 of the prelude (99 series; earlier with 185 bhp) produced about 200 bhp, so... that's quite a jump....

and 0-100 in 3.7....wow... so what's your best ET... 10.0 flat..?? that's quite a ride you got there....!! nice, dude....
Thanks man..

Its the 2.2 prelude engine. Ive actually added selves into the block, which are ceramic coated as well. Its the coupe 2 door.

Its 500 on the dyno. Ive worked on a Opel GSI 2.0 (from the late 80''s) and that gives the E46 M3 a hidding.

Best ET is 10.5 sec! Considering the amount of money I spent on the car, its a fair jump I think.
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Thanks man..
you are most welcome, buddy....

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Best ET is 10.5 sec!Considering the amount of money I spent on the car, its a fair jump I think.
yawsa..!!! that's DEFINITELY fair...especially if you consider the fact that the civic is a FWD, and a fairly modded evo VII does about the same ET.... nice wheels there...

p.s- if you don't mind my buttin' in, could you maybe tell us mortals how much of change was actually spent on the ride....?? oh- and is it reliable enough (considering you reworked the block) ?
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you are most welcome, buddy....


yawsa..!!! that's DEFINITELY fair...especially if you consider the fact that the civic is a FWD, and a fairly modded evo VII does about the same ET.... nice wheels there...

p.s- if you don't mind my buttin' in, could you maybe tell us mortals how much of change was actually spent on the ride....?? oh- and is it reliable enough (considering you reworked the block) ?
LOL

Well, believe me, Im a mortal as well, just Im still young and well had nothing else to do really with my salary, so into the car it went for about 3 years. NOt sure how to covert it into you guys currency, but in South African Rands, I spent about R95 000 on the car, most of it on the engine.

Actually the car is very reliable. I use it everyday to work and since it has stand alone fuel management, I can use normal fuel as well or fuel with 100 octane level in it.

Im itching to take on a Porsche 911 Turbo, because by my calculations, I should give this car more than a run for its money.
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Hey cool car
How about some pics. Prelude engine H22 is pretty stout. With this kind of power in a FWD, its going to be quite a "tire-smoke creator"
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Old 17th August 2005, 23:17   #22
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NOt sure how to covert it into you guys currency, but in South African Rands, I spent about R95 000 on the car, most of it on the engine.
hmmm...that would come out to about 650,000 INR..... pretty decent, actually.... in fact, there's a dude here who got his indian lancer kitted with an evo VI powertrain and tranny including the AWD, and his best ET (he had some technical problems while doing these tests, but that should have been sorted out by now; we are hoping to see him beat his previous best this year) was about 12.2..... and he had spent almost the same amount of money (maybe slightly more)....

for those in the know, talking about the madans here...at the speedruns....hope to see him again this year; and preferably sideways, too;hope they break the mid elevens....

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Actually the car is very reliable. I use it everyday to work and since it has stand alone fuel management, I can use normal fuel as well or fuel with 100 octane level in it.
a standalone fms in a prelude powerplant....i'm guessing the tuning must have been quite difficult....getting those parameters just right.... but when done properly, there's nothing that can beat a standalone.... but wouldn't the haltech be easier..?? good to know that the car is driveable under everyday conditions too....


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Im itching to take on a Porsche 911 Turbo, because by my calculations, I should give this car more than a run for its money.
oh, yes...definitely... i believe your car could smoke some pretty pumped up porsche egos .... unless they are tuned, too...he..he...
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The haltech would have been easier, but luckily we have a specialist over here! So naturally stand alone all the way!

Im sure alot of you guys will agree with this, having a fast car is one thing, but knowing how to explore its potential is another! I spend about 2 hours every single day, just driving the socks out of my honda for the best part of 3 years. I do track testing twice a week. So I know the car so well, Ive become part of it in a sense and vice versa.

another sweet ride to do up is the Toyota Supra.

btw, I busy with a modification to the car right now, adding a 2nd Turbo to ti, to deal with the turbo lag from the 1st. As soon as its ready, your'll will get pics!!! I promise
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Haha, 500bhp on a Civic?? Awesome!!!

Dude, with a 1/4 mile time of 10.5 secs, you'll smoke the Mclaren F1 too. Can't get better than that.

If your car was a RWD, you'd have hit 60mph much quicker than the 3.7 secs. I'm looking at 3 secs flat.

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Haha, 500bhp on a Civic?? Awesome!!!

Dude, with a 1/4 mile time of 10.5 secs, you'll smoke the Mclaren F1 too. Can't get better than that.

If your car was a RWD, you'd have hit 60mph much quicker than the 3.7 secs. I'm looking at 3 secs flat.

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Thanks.

Beat a McLaren F1, lol, that will be pretty hard I think. I agree if it was RWD, I would have a better 1/4 mile time, but Im still pretty happy with it!

Im still waiting to get the car back, then its testing time again.
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Im still waiting to get the car back, then its testing time again.
and don't forget to post them pics first...be sure to do that before careening off into the sunset....

p.s- since you're making it a twin turbo setup, what's the expected gain in boost? and assuming that you'll be dyno'ing it again sometime soon, do post the specs...along with them pics.....
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The old man does to me what no women has ever done….make me spend!

Went to the Vahan Yaatra – a pointless exhibition with the exception of the JBL stall and a good look at the Skoda VRs – anyway back to topic – while lingering at Pete’s/ Hot Track’s, the old man sealed a deal for a K&N filter for the Vtec (his way of releiing tension while awaiting the arrival of his billion dollar baby!). “Got no money on me!” 10 min later, he thrust a bundle in my face!

Fitment took 30 min, main issues were the guy was not sure on the secure mounting – tried using the brake servo mount when the injector rail mount would do and the plumbing of the sensor for the coolant.

Started her up – makes a deadly vroomming noise – bit like a resonating anally retentive hippo about to void! When dropping the old man at Koshy’s, we noted that it would now do 1500rpm in third -signs of things to come. As a lot of the plumbing etc was lost, car is slightly noisier, was getting irritated with the tinkly vibrations. Things were not complete so time for some Sat afternoon meddling.

Most of the vibrations were due to the strut brace and intake tube trying to mate! 5 min adjustment sorted that out. Now, it was time to add the other part – Iridium plugs + wires. Out came the plug wrench and ooops, I realized that I had not changed a plug since the Amby days. So out went the plug wrench. Luckily, there was a 16 mm plug wrench somewhere in the house. I carefully changes the plugs, the plug recess is deep so I did not take chances. Changed the wires – a doddle and started the engine. Seemed smoother but remember, the plugs have 35000 km to them

I only managed to use the car yesterday on Monday – Low down torque has improved. Plugs can cope with high revs leading to top end smoothness. Doing a U-turn from a service road onto the highway, the car just went – normally, it would slow down due to torque flat spots. Car does 1500rpm in 4th when cold. Acceleration – has improved but you do not feel the transient rush from flaccid <3000 to stiff 4000+ vtec action. Improved torque masks all this. At idle, has an uneven poppy growl – like the E250 D at idle.

I like – Improved drivability, vroom when pushing, smooth high speed revs
Don’t like – may be too much boom at high speeds,

Time for an opinion from the Old Man

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The old man does to me what no women has ever done….make me spend!
I like that!!! Ok, let's say I know when exactly to make you spend.

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the old man sealed a deal for a K&N filter for the Vtec
FRIENDS, ROMANS, COUNTRYMEN..that was Ajmat's plan. I only supported it.
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(his way of releiing tension while awaiting the arrival of his billion dollar baby!).
Yeah, I was suffering with (hyper)tension.
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“Got no money on me!” 10 min later, he thrust a bundle in my face!
What all complaint you get from friends.
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Started her up – makes a deadly vroomming noise
And you forgot to mention that wide grin.
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bit like a resonating anally retentive hippo about to void!
Told you not to watch National Geographic channel too much!!
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When dropping the old man at Koshy’s,
we noted that it would now do 1500rpm in third
That's a significant positive change.
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-signs of things to come. As a lot of the plumbing etc was lost, car is slightly noisier, was getting irritated with the tinkly vibrations. Things were not complete so time for some Sat afternoon meddling.
Don't say you don't love that. Should add a few cold beer cans next to your tool box
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Most of the vibrations were due to the strut brace and intake tube trying to mate!
I know. Quickies are bit messy.
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it was time to add the other part – Iridium plugs + wires.
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Car does 1500rpm in 4th when cold. Acceleration – has improved but you do not feel the transient rush from flaccid <3000 to stiff 4000+ vtec action. Improved torque masks all this. At idle, has an uneven poppy growl – like the E250 D at idle.
That's how it should be, if you ask me. No struggle, no show but pure performance.
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Spend a very little amount . Have a nice layer of insulation under the bonnet. Roll up the window. Switch on AC... Boom will change into hum..merge well with your JBL boom box.
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Ajmat, you may want to consider making a buffer between the filter and the engine bay. You will be taking in too much hot air with the current layout.

Rudra does seem to have a knack of talking people into buying things! Now his biggest test would be getting GTO to buy some DECENT RUBBER for his Vtec!
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Rudra does seem to have a knack
of talking people into buying things!
There you go! I'm stopping it. Can't handle allegations.
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Now his biggest test would be getting GTO to buy some DECENT RUBBER for his Vtec!
Ok, may be for the last time...

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