spotted: merc and tata collaborated car - Team-BHP

xtreme power · 21st August 2005, 13:40

dudes just spotted this merc sierra on a website called cardomain.com...
the car was under the mercedes categoy..
taught it was damn hillarious

turbo_lover · 21st August 2005, 13:48

hehe yeah ..i have remember spotting this in delhi a couple of times ..

islero · 21st August 2005, 14:00

Actually, it would have been slightly better if the star were on the grille of a Tempo Trax, because at least that thing looks a bit like the G-Wagen.

( I think they actually used some parts of the G-wagen with permission from Merc but Im not sure.

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EVO6 · 21st August 2005, 18:48

IMO it wud have made a better appearance on the SUMO ...
How can people make such mockery of their cars ...
BirdBrains i guess...

Azzkikr · 21st August 2005, 19:39

hey ! I have seen one of those too...there's one in Bangalore which has been modified to look like an old merc ( sorry guys no pic). but its actually a tata mobile...had quite a few people going...but like I said...a very very bad imitation...

Mpower · 21st August 2005, 20:04

This was a very common mod in the south during the late 90s, on both Estates and Sierras. Some even used the original headlight and grille from the W124 Merc.

ananthkamath · 21st August 2005, 20:16

Mpower did you notice the HUGE scrub radius in the first pic and the excessive toe-out on turns in the second? Could it be due to the wheel offset?

Ananth

Mpower · 21st August 2005, 20:47

AK, yes its the wheel offset. Those wheel bearings wont last too much longer.

The toe-out you see is the ackerman geometry. The wheel on the inside of a turn has to turn more than the outside. Also I notice a lot of castor...at least 8deg.

ananthkamath · 21st August 2005, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

The toe-out you see is the ackerman geometry. The wheel on the inside of a turn has to turn more than the outside. Also I notice a lot of castor...at least 8deg.

Yeah isnt it a bit too much...the ackermann, i mean?

Funny thing, I wanted to mention the excessive castor too...but on a power steering car there should be no problems...For example the Indica has two different castors for PS and non-PS cars...They use a differently oriented lower ball-joint for this...

GTO · 21st August 2005, 23:20

If anyone made a mockery - its Tata themselves. This chap may have just done some ingenious badge re-engineering. But Tata had the nerve to xerox the front end of the then-Mercs onto its production cars.

GTO

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Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,668 View My Garage	This was a very common mod in the south during the late 90s, on both Estates and Sierras. Some even used the original headlight and grille from the W124 Merc. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

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ananthkamath BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 960 View My Garage	Mpower did you notice the HUGE scrub radius in the first pic and the excessive toe-out on turns in the second? Could it be due to the wheel offset? Ananth

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Mpower Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago/B'lore Posts: 3,668 View My Garage	AK, yes its the wheel offset. Those wheel bearings wont last too much longer. The toe-out you see is the ackerman geometry. The wheel on the inside of a turn has to turn more than the outside. Also I notice a lot of castor...at least 8deg. __________________ The difference between the men and the boys....................is the speed of their toys.

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